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that's not what the NFU second in command said, he said the NFU could tell RT what to do
Well they told Clive yesterday the total opposite from what i read in his post!
that's not what the NFU second in command said, he said the NFU could tell RT what to do
Well I was in the room when he said it and so was @farmerclare someone else questioned it and he said it again.Well they told Clive yesterday the total opposite from what i read in his post!
100% from your post yesterday after your phone call it sounds very much like you have either been bought off/ talked around @Clive by the NFU!
Utter rubbish for the NFU to say they sit on and have voting rights on the RT board ( let alone co-own it ) yet have no say on new rules/ how the RT company is run etc etc, they have their vote and could use it to vote down new things like more rules/ regs but they do not, also the NFU could come out and say they are against the new rules etc being proposed for later this year but they do not!
You have been bought off Clive, you may not know it but you have been! the tone/ way you are now defending some aspects of the NFU response to RT in your post show that is the case.
A very sad day indeed and the cause is lost.
that's not what the NFU second in command said, he said the NFU could tell RT what to do
I hope they do, I don't see why I should help to pay for RT and I am not even a memberthey have given away board control (stupid !)
but they could shut it down tomorrow if minded simply by telling membership to resign on mass or simply stop putting stickers on passports
they lack balls for that though and it upsets the gravy train too much !
NFU are not going to be the hero here - AHDB seem most minded to do something about this IMO and could easy withdraw there financial support (i suspect they will do !)
they have given away board control (stupid !)
but they could shut it down tomorrow if minded simply by telling membership to resign on mass or simply stop putting stickers on passports
they lack balls for that though and it upsets the gravy train too much !
NFU are not going to be the hero here - AHDB seem most minded to do something about this IMO and could easy withdraw there financial support (i suspect they will do !)
Posters up in arms if NFU member sit on the board as there is a conflict of interest.
Posters up in arms if NFU don't have control of the board.
Which is right?
OK Clive if ahdb don't do as we hope they will do ,what is the next plan I ain't holding my breach. There is only three options legle challenge, stop using stickers, or another scheme yes or a mixture of these.
So you want to see farmers on the main and sector boards as well as the TAC.Nfu should not control RT - farmer members (some being nfu members) should however
there is s big and important difference
So you want to see farmers on the main and sector boards as well as the TAC.
But not necessarily NFU members.
But you said previously that it was silly of the NFU to give away control of the board.
Those are two opposing views?
RT do keep saying that they have already got plenty of farmer representation on these boards and committees.
That would raise the question given the distan for RT atm that these are either not vocal enough or lack enough weight to make a difference.
Posters up in arms if NFU member sit on the board as there is a conflict of interest.
Posters up in arms if NFU don't have control of the board.
Which is right?
Hang on, doesn't it depend who is paying for the scheme?Nfu should not control RT - farmer members (some being nfu members) should however
there is s big and important difference
Begs the question, Did the NFU become part of RT to Divide and Conquer it?The right answer is that the whole thing is a load of rubbish without a leg to stand on in the first place. RT doesn't stand up to scrutiny as a label, a brand or even as check for legal compliance. Its all utter balls. They capitalised on a moment of chaos in agriculture with BSE and have trumped themselves up as the saviours - it insulting and the whole organisation has Blenkiron levels of hubris.
The NFU should never have backed it in the first place because it was nonsense from the beginning. Its now out of their control and they don't even know where they stand on it anyway because the individuals all have different opinions. Its all built on sand and will never be right because it was wrong from the start
Hang on, doesn't it depend who is paying for the scheme?
At the moment it's run for the benefit of the supermarkets and the AIC with farmers paying the bills. So yes, the board should be controlled by farmers.
If the beneficiaries want to carry on the scheme and pay for it themselves, then they should have a majority on the board. Maybe with some farmers to moderate their ambitions
And therin lies the problem. The biggest income stream to RT is from the licensing of the logo to retailers/processors etc. Not from the Royalty farmers pay. It explains so much under the world of Jim Moseley
Hang on, doesn't it depend who is paying for the scheme?
At the moment it's run for the benefit of the supermarkets and the AIC with farmers paying the bills. So yes, the board should be controlled by farmers.
If the beneficiaries want to carry on the scheme and pay for it themselves, then they should have a majority on the board. Maybe with some farmers to moderate their ambitions
Begs the question, Did the NFU become part of RT to Divide and Conquer it?
Or to be Divided and Conquered?
Which is the way it now always seems to approach things. Being:
Yes we have a problem. Sorry, we'll deal with it!
There are some nice videos of the Euston Estate on YouTube. It is hardly a typical farm compared to the average RT member.
Grain being quickly transferred to a Camgrain store 31 miles away, must be a huge weight of Mr B's mind. Let alone his record keeping, vermin control expense and administrative time!
I wonder what is in those big white Fertiliser type bags in that Dutch barn?