Things that would improve farm safety ?

Clive · Apr 5, 2021

simon-0116 said:
Worked for a farmer who only worked 6 days a week. Religious reasons. Always got job done,

we only work 5 days apart from harvest and autumn drilling

not religious, just trying to maintain good work / life balance. Small team but we always get the work done in good time

would love to run a business where we didn’t work weekends at harvest either, something we are working towards in the future

not possible for livestock guys i do understand but perfectly possible for any arable farm

maybe livestock could aim and get set up to just do “bare minimum” at weekends ?

Goweresque · Apr 5, 2021

simon-0116 said:
Worked for a farmer who only worked 6 days a week. Religious reasons. Always got job done,

My father never worked Sundays on religious grounds, apart from essential stuff like cattle feeding. No other farm work was ever done on Sunday, even in summer when hay was being made. He always got everything done.

Lofty1984 · Apr 5, 2021

Maybe they should link subs into it as in a certain % is held back and paid on completion of a course I know for some it would be like trying to teach granny to suck eggs but your never too old to learn no matter how good you think you even a basic day to quickly cover the Routine stuff kind of like a refresher course would help,
There are a few “survivor” story vids on YouTube I urge you look them up and the theme is normally the same “rushed in, wasn’t concentrating , done it a thousand times “ etc

Goweresque · Apr 5, 2021

Bloders said:
The figures here
View attachment 952527

are not compensated for the demographic for the workers, so my question remains.
What is the demograpghic of farm workers?

The lower chart is per 100,000 worlers, so that over the 5 years, the number remains valid as (i assume) the number of people working in the indutry changes.

No the lower chart means if you had 100k workers aged 65+ (for example) you would expect 17-18 deaths over a 5 year period. Whereas if you had 100k workers aged 16-24 you would only expect 3 deaths in the same period. Because you are comparing deaths per similar numbers of workers you can thus see the relative risk between age groups. A 65+ person is about 6 times more like to have a fatal accident than a 16-24 year old.

Extreme Optimist · Apr 5, 2021

but money does make a difference. I have renewed all my old cattle sheds from dilapedated pole barns to modern farm buildings with scrape passages, all feeding from the outside, a handling setup that can be accessed easily from every shed and cattle moved there by one man (if necessary). It is massively safer than it used to be but has cost a lot to put in place. Having invested all this money to make the conditions better for the cattle, better for the stockmen and a damn site safer, I am not going to want to give it all up when I'm 60 just as things are starting to come right.

The new sheds also mean that fewer repairs will be needed to roofs, more lights in the buildings make visibility better.

simon-0116 · Apr 5, 2021

Fendt516profi said:
Livestock farm?

No large arable, I understand livestock is different but staffing / wages are always going to be a problem.

roscoe erf · Apr 5, 2021

7610 super q said:
I don't have any graphs, I don't have any statistics, but I do have eyes. I see understaffed farms, folks rushing to beat the weather, elderly equipment ( which may or may not be well maintained ).
And you want to cut tractor drivers hours ?. Clueless.
What would attract more staff onto farms ?
What would be needed to fund new equipment ?

Anyway, I'm ooot. Folks like you have ruined this thread/ forum.

best leave em to it this always ends up with self righteous telling other's how to do it

e5c0rt.mk1 · Apr 5, 2021

Robt said:
Sorry I disagree , look at the stats of who is actually dying in ag. It’s the 50-70 year olds that should know better. They have “common sense “ we can’t keep saying it’s down to money. Very poor excuse

Why are alot still working well past retirement age? Is it because its their way of life, or is it they dont have loads of money saved, company pensions etc. like alot of people who have normal jobs have.

simon-0116 · Apr 5, 2021

Goweresque said:
My father never worked Sundays on religious grounds, apart from essential stuff like cattle feeding. No other farm work was ever done on Sunday, even in summer when hay was being made. He always got everything done.

6 days great when single as can go out , cook clean shop wash properly.
Also worked a summer 7.30 am start no latter than 11pm and Finnish 7pm on Sundays. Them few hours gives you chance to relax eat properly when busy

primmiemoo · Apr 5, 2021

Jam Tomorrow said:
Yup the motorway hard shoulder is full of parked cars taking calls

Many wrongs don't make it right, though.

AGVENDOR · Apr 5, 2021

Clive said:
we only work 5 days apart from harvest and autumn drilling

not religious, just trying to maintain good work / life balance. Small team but we always get the work done in good time

would love to run a business where we didn’t work weekends at harvest either, something we are working towards in the future

not possible for livestock guys i do understand but perfectly possible for any arable farm

maybe livestock could aim and get set up to just do “bare minimum” at weekends ?

@Clive I have just had an e-mail from a company specialising in Health and Safety who want to promote their services within the directory. Great timing and news feeds should help keep farmers up to date.

7610 super q · Apr 5, 2021

roscoe erf said:
best leave em to it this always ends up with self righteous telling other's how to do it

Been here before haven't we.

Health and safety thread.

A dedicated thread for those that want to discuss health and safety issues in agriculture.

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Lofty1984 · Apr 5, 2021

Extreme Optimist said:
but money does make a difference. I have renewed all my old cattle sheds from dilapedated pole barns to modern farm buildings with scrape passages, all feeding from the outside, a handling setup that can be accessed easily from every shed and cattle moved there by one man (if necessary). It is massively safer than it used to be but has cost a lot to put in place. Having invested all this money to make the conditions better for the cattle, better for the stockmen and a damn site safer, I am not going to want to give it all up when I'm 60 just as things are starting to come right.

The new sheds also mean that fewer repairs will be needed to roofs, more lights in the buildings make visibility better.

Great example

roscoe erf · Apr 5, 2021

simon-0116 said:
6 days great when single as can go out , cook clean shop wash properly.
Also worked a summer 7.30 am start no latter than 11pm and Finnish 7pm on Sundays. Them few hours gives you chance to relax eat properly when busy

of course money makes a difference f.f.s a 2 year old could work that out

SilliamWhale · Apr 5, 2021

e5c0rt.mk1 said:
But the majority of accidents is down to money.

I don't agree with you. The majority of accidents are down to mistakes

bobk · Apr 5, 2021

SilliamWhale said:
I don't agree with you. The majority of accidents are down to mistakes

Or taking 2 seconds to think

Grandad Pig · Apr 5, 2021

Clive said:
i reckon mobile phones have saved more than they have killed ?

One of my students recently lost two fingers. He is coping very well, but his accident proved the point that accidents are usually the result of several things coming together at the wrong time. By their nature they are unpredictable.

Sid · Apr 5, 2021

rusty said:
My tip is to get rid of any tow chains you have and replace the most with big tow straps.
We had an accident here while I was away for 2 days. An overloaded trailer got stuck and the lads got a chain and snatched it to try and get the trailer out. It came off, went through the back window and hit the driver on the back. It caused him to smash his head on the steering wheel and break his nose. He was lucky it didn't hit him on the back of the head. If a strap breaks the ricochet is far less dangerous.

The problem was the overloaded trailer, that wasn't an accident.

Bloders · Apr 5, 2021

Sid said:
The problem was the overloaded trailer, that wasn't an accident.

but there were also other factors which should not have happened.

bobk · Apr 5, 2021

Bloders said:
but there were also other factors which should not have happened.

You've never had an accident presumably

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