Things that would improve farm safety ?

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
we only work 5 days apart from harvest and autumn drilling

not religious, just trying to maintain good work / life balance. Small team but we always get the work done in good time

would love to run a business where we didn’t work weekends at harvest either, something we are working towards in the future

not possible for livestock guys i do understand but perfectly possible for any arable farm

maybe livestock could aim and get set up to just do “bare minimum” at weekends ?

Try to do this as much as is possible, but it is a small, extensive operation. Intensive needs income to pay for proper 5 day week working...
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
6 days great when single as can go out , cook clean shop wash properly.
Also worked a summer 7.30 am start no latter than 11pm and Finnish 7pm on Sundays. Them few hours gives you chance to relax eat properly when busy
When we got a few hours off due to a early finish we used to go to local pub and get comatosed!

Nobody was fit to drive anything the following morning!. 🤦‍♂️

Any Sunday's off went to the church in king's cross London village.
 

Bloders

Member
Location
Ruabon
Someone "overloaded" the trailer.
How would they have felt if someone had a life changing injury?
I agree. The trailer was overloaded.
But it could have been stuck for another reason.
The tractor driver used the wrong technique and towing equipment.
All THREE factors contributed to the accident.
Remove any one of those three (in this rough example) and the accident would never have happened.
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
I agree. The trailer was overloaded.
But it could have been stuck for another reason.
The tractor driver used the wrong technique and towing equipment.
All THREE factors contributed to the accident.
Remove any one of those three (in this rough example) and the accident would never have happened.
So if it wasn't overloaded it wouldn't have got stuck?
 

tr250

Member
Location
Northants
A safety switch to prevent PTO turning when no one is in the seat, I know it will cause howls of outrage , but I know of two deaths from it.
How will I sharpen the forager fill the tanker or sprayer etc. I’d suggest modern tractors with tiny buttons that can be swapped around
dogs are more than able to switch on a pto, move a spool or click a gearbox into drive - Crazy having them in cabs but see it a lot
Yes they are now but 20 years ago not so. I’d like to see a dog put a Ih 956 pto in gear. Modern electrics and technology has got a big part to play in safety
 

Bloders

Member
Location
Ruabon
So if it wasn't overloaded it wouldn't have got stuck?
not ecessarily so.
And people are missing the point.
In this example, a person hurt their back, an was fortunate it was not a lot worse.
But, it is not purely down to being overloaded. there were other factors at play, all of which added to the incident.

If they had used a winch, with correctly rated wire, then a) the wire would not have snapped and b) there woudl be no need to snatch the chain to try and pull it out.

if people cant see that, then i give up
 

Ivorbiggun

Member
Location
Norfolk
Educate the bosses to make them see it’s not acceptable to work their staff 17/18 hours (or more on some farms.)with a 10 min break 7 days a week during busy times.
That vehicle weights etc do apply to them as well.
That they shouldn’t take on more land they can sensibly manage.
Have enough staff to cope.
Pay the staff what their worth.
Stop having pointless health and safety meetings, then as soon as things get busy it’s all forgotten.
Don’t cut corners.
And don’t employ students.


But hell will freeze over first.
 

Bloders

Member
Location
Ruabon
How about speed limiters on tractors 25mph and that's it, they done it for HGV's
they could fit them on new tractors from a certain date same as they did for HGV's
so, the charts posted earlier, how many of those deaths were caused by speeding?
Not many i suggest.
As i said ages ago, it needs (and I am sure people are already doing this) a careful consideration to the causal factors of historic accidents, and address those which will have the greatest effect on reducing future accidents.
 

topground

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Somerset.
Why are alot still working well past retirement age? Is it because its their way of life, or is it they dont have loads of money saved, company pensions etc. like alot of people who have normal jobs have.
Some of us are working past retirement age in farming because it’s what we have always wanted to do. To be made to stop aged 60 would mean I might have to play golf or go fishing and I can’t think of anything worse for my mental well-being!
In answer to the question in the original post I suggest a greater understanding of the concept of dynamic risk assessment would help reduce the accident risk throughout the working population.
I always look at how a particular task might go wrong before undertaking any work, thinking about how much a job going wrong could hurt tends to focus the mind.
 

Lofty1984

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
Educate the bosses to make them see it’s not acceptable to work their staff 17/18 hours (or more on some farms.)with a 10 min break 7 days a week during busy times.
That vehicle weights etc do apply to them as well.
That they shouldn’t take on more land they can sensibly manage.
Have enough staff to cope.
Pay the staff what their worth.
Stop having pointless health and safety meetings, then as soon as things get busy it’s all forgotten.
Don’t cut corners.
And don’t employ students.


But hell will freeze over first.
Don’t agree with the students bit how are they to learn
 

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Well as an operator of age 57, and fortunately still in possession of all limbs and digits, I find the suggestion that I be forced to Jack it in three years hence to be somewhat offensive.
Are we to remove HGV and drivers licenses from over 60s at the same time.
If I die in a freak lambing accident at age 80, if I choose to still be farming, I for one shall consider that I died a good death.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
so, the charts posted earlier, how many of those deaths were caused by speeding?
Not many i suggest.
As i said ages ago, it needs (and I am sure people are already doing this) a careful consideration to the causal factors of historic accidents, and address those which will have the greatest effect on reducing future accidents.
don't give a dam how many the thread was about things to help safety, are you saying that speeding is never a factor

Quad bikes are one of the most dangerous things on the farm or so the chap on the safety course said so ban them for a start
 

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