Things that would improve farm safety ?
- Thread starter Clive
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I can just see how you'd be parking the combine up with 20 acres left far from home and rain threatening, just because the cart boys ran out of hours....be careful what you wish for!!
because the throttle peddle is not an on/off switch
I wouldn't as there are plenty that wouldn't want the expense of all that
they can stick to the lower limits then
but for those prepared to go to extra levels why not provide a mechanism
ollie989898
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You can still see fudged/missing PTO guards about on farms. It makes me wince just seeing them. For the sake of a few hundred quid... ouch.
I've taken a couple of older JCB loadalls on dual carriageways, as soon as you hit a hill you are doing well to reach 15mph. Feels fudging hairy. Having said that, managed to crank a Claas up to speed on the road and was surprised how it blazed along. I was impressed.
I do think the UK should adopt the same weight and speed limits for ag kit as they have in France/Germany but insist on ball/spoon and proper suspension on tractors/trailers and commercial air brakes. It would be interesting to hear what the exact rules are in Europe. Maybe the Scandinavian contingent can tell us their rules?
I've taken a couple of older JCB loadalls on dual carriageways, as soon as you hit a hill you are doing well to reach 15mph. Feels fudging hairy. Having said that, managed to crank a Claas up to speed on the road and was surprised how it blazed along. I was impressed.
I do think the UK should adopt the same weight and speed limits for ag kit as they have in France/Germany but insist on ball/spoon and proper suspension on tractors/trailers and commercial air brakes. It would be interesting to hear what the exact rules are in Europe. Maybe the Scandinavian contingent can tell us their rules?
had e nuff
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TheTallGuy
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- Cambridgeshire
One does wonder what will happen to an employer who advocates that his employees break the speed limits should an accident occur where excess speed is considered to have been either a causal factor or contributed to the severity... especially if that accident happens to involve life changing injuries or a fatality.
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Think every country in Europe has different rules.
When I was in Slovakia every tractor including the fleet of Fendt 930s I worked with was limited to 40k.
France I believe is 40k for everything even Fastracs, and oil not air brakes.
In Germany and Poland everything had air brakes including the Loadalls.
Thanks. Very kind of you to say.What a breath of fresh air to read from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
Credit must go to the lecturers - Dr Mark Day in particular IIRC - at the Defence Academy at HMS Sultan, Gosport, when I was a spotty nosed graduate civil servant. They were teaching in the context of nuclear safety, but the same principles apply to conventional H&S.
The carrot diagram is still one of my favourite ever visual aids.
thin end of the wedge just like most things are, RT anyone
simmy_bull
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Ok here’s a question for those reading this thread. Mentioned to boss a couple of times over the last couple of years “can we get those trailer brakes looked at?” 12t grain/silage/muck trailers. Two need adjusting up they make little difference to you stopping. One has no return springs as there sat on the workshop shelf so can’t be plugged in and another a bale trailer has no brake coupling on the end of the pipe it’s been broken off.
I know The reaction will be refuse to drive it but can anyone honestly say they would refuse when numerous other employees don’t? I don’t think I’d have a job as I wouldn’t be able to do anything!
I know The reaction will be refuse to drive it but can anyone honestly say they would refuse when numerous other employees don’t? I don’t think I’d have a job as I wouldn’t be able to do anything!
Write it to him and say if not fixed before you are next asked to use one of them you will forward a copy to H&S?
If you were to get the sack there would be a strong chance of you walking away with a payout for unfair dismissal.
Your boss needs to buck his ideas up. If I was you I would probably be looking around at other employers anyway.
l'ordinary bonville
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It's not true to say you will be safer if you earn more but if you increase safety regulation and policing then agriculture would need to spend a sh!t load of money to comply
If you refused and he sacked you, you could take him to court for unfair dismissal. I’d refuse to drive them. If you have an accident it’s you that will get fined too! Especially the one with no brake coupling as that would be blatant neglect on your part as driver
l'ordinary bonville
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The swiss cheese model
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Sad piece today on BBC relevant to this thread. Mr Bowden had warned others not to enter the bull pen so one wonders what made him enter himself?
Buckinghamshire farmer 'trampled to death by bulls', inquest hears
A farmer was trampled to death when he climbed into a pen housing 17 uncastrated bulls, an inquest heard.
Oliver Bowden, 56, died at Mill End Farm in Hambleden, Buckinghamshire on 5 May.
The father of four, who also had two grandchildren, was found in the pen by colleague Samuel Beer who called emergency services while trying to protect Mr Bowden.
The inquest, which is continuing, heard the farmer died at the scene.
He sustained fatal multiple injuries, including crushing to the chest and abdomen.
'He wasn't moving'
An inquest jury in Beaconsfield heard the family had farmed the land since the 1930s.
Mr Beer said he found Mr Bowden after noticing a bucket and a shoe in the corner of the shed.
In a statement, he said he jumped into the pen and "saw Oliver lying on the floor".
"He had blood all over his face and head. I couldn't tell how bad his injuries were, but he wasn't moving."
Mr Beer said he tried to find Mr Bowden's pulse several times while he called the emergency services.
"As I was doing this, I was attacked by a bull as I was standing over Oliver to protect him," he said.
"I picked up a stick to hit the bull with it to try to get it to leave me alone, as I tried to help Oliver."
He said he did not know how long Mr Bowden had been lying in the pen, or which bulls had attacked him or the farmer.
An air ambulance crew arrived and pronounced Mr Bowden dead at about 15:50 BST.
'Boisterous and aggressive'
A Health and Safety Executive (HSE) report produced at the inquest stated Mr Bowden was known to tell employees not to enter the bull pen by themselves.
HSE Inspector Nick Ward, said: "After eight months, bulls are known to be more boisterous and aggressive than castrated animals.
"At no time should it be necessary to enter a pen of bulls to carry out any work."
The day after the death, the 17 bulls were taken to an abattoir.
Mr Bowden's family said they would no longer raise bulls for beef.
Buckinghamshire farmer 'trampled to death by bulls', inquest hears
A farmer was trampled to death when he climbed into a pen housing 17 uncastrated bulls, an inquest heard.
Oliver Bowden, 56, died at Mill End Farm in Hambleden, Buckinghamshire on 5 May.
The father of four, who also had two grandchildren, was found in the pen by colleague Samuel Beer who called emergency services while trying to protect Mr Bowden.
The inquest, which is continuing, heard the farmer died at the scene.
He sustained fatal multiple injuries, including crushing to the chest and abdomen.
'He wasn't moving'
An inquest jury in Beaconsfield heard the family had farmed the land since the 1930s.
Mr Beer said he found Mr Bowden after noticing a bucket and a shoe in the corner of the shed.
In a statement, he said he jumped into the pen and "saw Oliver lying on the floor".
"He had blood all over his face and head. I couldn't tell how bad his injuries were, but he wasn't moving."
Mr Beer said he tried to find Mr Bowden's pulse several times while he called the emergency services.
"As I was doing this, I was attacked by a bull as I was standing over Oliver to protect him," he said.
"I picked up a stick to hit the bull with it to try to get it to leave me alone, as I tried to help Oliver."
He said he did not know how long Mr Bowden had been lying in the pen, or which bulls had attacked him or the farmer.
An air ambulance crew arrived and pronounced Mr Bowden dead at about 15:50 BST.
'Boisterous and aggressive'
A Health and Safety Executive (HSE) report produced at the inquest stated Mr Bowden was known to tell employees not to enter the bull pen by themselves.
HSE Inspector Nick Ward, said: "After eight months, bulls are known to be more boisterous and aggressive than castrated animals.
"At no time should it be necessary to enter a pen of bulls to carry out any work."
The day after the death, the 17 bulls were taken to an abattoir.
Mr Bowden's family said they would no longer raise bulls for beef.
Chae1
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You must be a good/careful driver.
Just fudge his tractor brakes, after a few bills to replace them he might decide to service trailer brakes.
There not difficult to adjust on trailer. I'm completely incompetent and I can set them up.
l'ordinary bonville
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