Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
I'm also going to add it's not my milk buyer who I have issue with, they're actually being helpful, plus they all punish for it! It's the test I have issue with it doesnt seem adequate in my view
Low fpd
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Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
1km each way, so 4km a day
lazy farmer
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- som/dor border
That distance won’t make cows thirsty on a cold April day. What are going to do on a hot august day ?
lazy farmer
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- som/dor border
That’s fine fight the regime or you want it doesn’t solve your Immediate situation
We have 3 large troughs in each yard, regardless of distance the cows go straight to the parlour. Also walking upto 1km. Last year when it was 25⁰ they would take a drink, but never affected the fpd.
frederick
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- south west
But the test is not controlled by your milk buyer. It is a legal standard determined by the govt Dairy Regulations 1995. It is your mp you need to take issue with.
So much as you might be in the right according to the letter of the law you are in the wrong. So going forwards in the short term to maximise your profitability you are best off doing all you can to meet the law rather than banging your head against a wall and claiming the law is an ass.
TheRanger
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- SW Scotland
Arla don't punish for FPD, you just get less of a bonus as the constituents are lower
10 years ago a feed nutritionalist who worked with SAC Jimmy Goldie could not figure out why herds that were housed 365 saw a drop in BF in March/ April and he said that NML recalibrate the test in the spring for cows going out to grass, not sure if NML ever admitted that was correct though.
Princess Pooper
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- East Mids
Just be aware - our dairy notifies RT of FPD failures. A low FPD failure is a breach of contract and when the dairy points this out to you it is a customer complaint. So it has to go in your complaints record, with detail of the complaint, what you have done to rectify it and what the final outcome was. RT will probably contact you and point this out to you and may ask to see the paperwork (like, now, not just at the next inspection). Isn't life great?
- Location
- Pembrokeshire
Have you checked everything else
Cluster flush
Plate cooler
Wash drum
511 isn't much of a jump
These were similar to what I was seeing with a leaky plate cooler
Cluster flush
Plate cooler
Wash drum
511 isn't much of a jump
These were similar to what I was seeing with a leaky plate cooler
Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
Oh fantastic, that's just what I need, only been a month and I'm completely fed up at this point
Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
Tbh I havent, but it was fine before they were walking that much, it was bad whilst they were walking that way, it was fine for the 2 days they weren't walking that far again and I'm just waiting for it to drop again now they're back in that field.
Once i get farm assurance done, and silage baled I shall start checking those things but I doubt they'll get me anywhere if I'm completely honest!
Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
That seems like a punishment personally
Milkcow365
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- Sw Scotland
- Location
- Pembrokeshire
Surely you should check these things before complaining to everyone
Just cause things were fine then doesn't mean they are now
Just cause things were fine then doesn't mean they are now
Jdunn55
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- Location
- Helston, cornwall
Didnt realise that part, I'm going to try everything I can and have done v as serious things already but it's just annoying that I'm almost certain it's nothing I'm doing wrong and I'm being punished for it
- Location
- Pembrokeshire
These things are easy to check
I just switched cluster flush of for a few days then plate cooler for a few days and jobs a goodun
I just switched cluster flush of for a few days then plate cooler for a few days and jobs a goodun
betweenthelines
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- southwest
The law is correct, it's the test that isn't up to the mark as has been evidenced on here.
Milk direct from the cow fails the test for added water-what more proof of a faulty test is needed?
Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
The trouble is theres a limited number of hours in the day, ever since I started up I've been doing 15 hours a day every day and am doing as much as I physically can, but from my perspective theres this:
Cows not walking so far = fpd fine
Cows walking far = fpd problem
Cows not walking so far = fpd fine
Plant hasn't changed once since I've been here
Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
Surely you would need to disconnect both of those not just turn them off? If the plate cooler is leaking water it wouldnt matter if its switched off as it would still be leaking water if you see what I mean?