5,000 burgers a day: World’s first cultured meat-production plant opens in Israel

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Where can I download that poster,as I would like to get my local sign maker to make a magnetic sign version of it to go on the tailgate of my pick up.
I wouldn’t if I were you, because meat generally and bacon in particular have certainly and conclusively linked with increased cancer risk and lord knows how many food poisoning incidences annually. People in glass houses are ill-advised to throw stones.
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
Where can I download that poster,as I would like to get my local sign maker to make a magnetic sign version of it to go on the tailgate of my pick up.

Maybe here:
 

Pilatus

Member
Location
cotswolds
I wouldn’t if I were you, because meat generally and bacon in particular have certainly and conclusively linked with increased cancer risk and lord knows how many food poisoning incidences annually. People in glass houses are ill-advised to throw stones.
Thanks pointing that out.The trouble is some people will be gullible enough to think fake meat is harmless. I myself will leave it at that.
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
Just a question on this whole questionable situation:

Could it be that owing to the fact that the farming industry has an aging demographic - there is no fierce unified fightback against this and other directed attacks on farming, as from outside in, it is quite concerning that there is very little push back on this?
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Thanks pointing that out.The trouble is some people will be gullible enough to think fake meat is harmless. I myself will leave it at that.
The harm or otherwise has yet to be proven of course. The issue I have with it, apart from it ruining the rural economy, is that large scale factory production of the base foodstock could have equally large scale consequencies if something went wrong, whether that was a toxicity problem with a batch or a failure to produce for some mechanical reason. The beauty with our current system is that there are thousands of small producers that are proven to decrease risks and almost never fail to supply the market whatever the challenges.
 

Raider112

Member
The harm or otherwise has yet to be proven of course. The issue I have with it, apart from it ruining the rural economy, is that large scale factory production of the base foodstock could have equally large scale consequencies if something went wrong, whether that was a toxicity problem with a batch or a failure to produce for some mechanical reason. The beauty with our current system is that there are thousands of small producers that are proven to decrease risks and almost never fail to supply the market whatever the challenges.
The fact that eating meat causes cancer has yet to be proven, although there is a question mark against processed meat, but it doesn't stop it being quoted regularly so there's no reason why we shouldn't repeat claims against artificial meat
 

DaveGrohl

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Specifically, what misinformation do you find there?
Wow, how long have you got? You think eveything in there is ok do you? You're happy with the author taking what Impossible Foods say in their propaganada as fact are you?

Aside from that, just looking at one thing: plant based foods provide a solution to diabetes. Not his words exactly, can't be bothered to look at the precise quote. Given that type 2 diabetes is a condition that is caused by the body becoming resistant to its own insulin, and that this comes about from overconsumption over a number of years of sugar/starch rich foods, and that these can only be found in plants, how is it that removing animal products from a human's diet can rectify this? Quite the contrary in reality. It's plant foods that cause type 2 diabetes. Tell me please, which animals provide us with starch and or sugar?
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
The fact that eating meat causes cancer has yet to be proven, although there is a question mark against processed meat, but it doesn't stop it being quoted regularly so there's no reason why we shouldn't repeat claims against artificial meat
First rule in sales is not to attack the opposition but to point out the advantages of your own. Unless there is a cast iron undisputed case against the opposition's product. Yes, there are plenty, in fact a massive number of organisations, pressure groups and individuals attacking livestock farming currently and maybe there is something to be said for fighting dirty in response. I'm in two minds about that. I honestly don't think it would be effective considering the massive pressures against us going forward. The trend is already unstoppable I'm afraid and the pressure will only increase over the next decade where we will see massive changes in all aspects of our lives, as if the changes of the last eighteen months are not enough.
 

delilah

Member
Could it be that owing to the fact that the farming industry has an aging demographic - there is no fierce unified fightback against this and other directed attacks on farming, as from outside in, it is quite concerning that there is very little push back on this?

There is no fightback on here, because this isn't The Farming Forum it is The Retiring Landowner Forum. They will squeal indignation, but they won't do much. Not hungry enough.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
There is no fightback on here, because this isn't The Farming Forum it is The Retiring Landowner Forum. They will squeal indignation, but they won't do much. Not hungry enough.
There are massive numbers of the under 40's on this forum. Farmers will not do much only because they can't agree on the problem, or even that there is a problem, let alone agree on an answer to said problem.
 

delilah

Member
There are massive numbers of the under 40's on this forum. Farmers will not do much only because they can't agree on the problem let alone agree on an answer to said problem.

That's the thing. There is no problem vis a vis cows and the environment, but so long as our national representatives say that there is, everyone is befuddled.
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
There are massive numbers of the under 40's on this forum. Farmers will not do much only because they can't agree on the problem, or even that there is a problem, let alone agree on an answer to said problem.

But: do you youngsters own the farm and make the decisions or is it still in the hands of the ageing farming parents, who dangle the proverbial carrott:

"One day me boy ( and not quite so often) me girl, this will all be yours.."
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
The fact that eating meat causes cancer has yet to be proven, although there is a question mark against processed meat, but it doesn't stop it being quoted regularly so there's no reason why we shouldn't repeat claims against artificial meat
There is no proper scientific evidence that eating unprocessed meat has any unwelcome effect on the human body. The is some reasonable evidence that processed meats along with many other processed foods can be linked to detrimental effects on the body. Plant based meat substitutes fall into this category being highly processed with high levels of additives to make them palatable. Synthetic laboratory grown meat is essentially growing cancerous tumours but without the blood vessels and blood, nerve tissue, intramuscular fats, and connective tissue that affect the taste.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
But: do you youngsters own the farm and make the decisions or is it still in the hands of the ageing farming parents, who dangle the proverbial carrott:

"One day me boy ( and not quite so often) me girl, this will all be yours.."

There's all sorts, no doubt. Nothing stopping the younger generations from being active whatever their domestic status.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
There is no fightback on here, because this isn't The Farming Forum it is The Retiring Landowner Forum. They will squeal indignation, but they won't do much. Not hungry enough.
How do you know what the farmers on TFF are doing ? Is it a condition of membership that we put everything on here? Do you want to know what I am having for lunch ? You comment that we are not hungry enough
 

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