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But Afghanistan wouldn't have been in TB's remit as it isn't in the Middle East it's in Central Asia!And to the Middle East...!
Time to go back in to Afghanistan
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bluegreen
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Just watch "Blackadder 4 series," theres a lot of truth interwoven comically into the shows scripts. Basically the main aim of WW1 was about depopulation of primarily young men. When you are told to go over the top of the trenches and spread out and walk slowly towards the enemy machine guns it doesnt take a genius to work out the true aim of the war.
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Covid has shown who society thinks is important and it’s not the young. If the minimum age of conscription to the armed forces had been 50 or so there’d have been a lot of people less keen about fighting.
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Nonsense, what's the point in that!
WW1 was all about treaties and alliances in the main to protect smaller countries. The irony being that none of the main belligerents actually wanted a war but events and alliances forced them into it.
World war one was as now where brave young soldiers were being led by an inexperienced leadership who are unable to listen to far more experienced peers, nothing ever changes!
Danllan
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Oh well done, and I never wrote that it is and my post was regarding TB; the point being that he was sent as a 'peace-envoy' to the place of his greatest debacle and war-making.
That;s not so, in fact the opposite is the case. The 'leadership' of both the Gov't and the forces were too experienced, old, staid, hidebound or what-have-you, who wouldn't listen to new thinkers or accept new ideas, and weren't up to coping with the rapid changes in tactics and materiel that the war brought, hence the(ir) initial failure in strategy.
How were the leadership of the armies in world war one too experienced, more like toffs set in their ways from when fighting with bows & arrows, as to the current mess for the moment words fail me!Oh well done, and I never wrote that it is and my post was regarding TB; the point being that he was sent as a 'peace-envoy' to the place of his greatest debacle and war-making.
That;s not so, in fact the opposite is the case. The 'leadership' of both the Gov't and the forces were too experienced, old, staid, hidebound or what-have-you, who wouldn't listen to new thinkers or accept new ideas, and weren't up to coping with the rapid changes in tactics and materiel that the war brought, hence the(ir) initial failure in strategy.
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Just listened to an interview on the today programme with an ex Marine who now runs a charity, I am so upset with the debacle and destruction for the poor people of Afghanistan. Yes, all wars end with negotiation of some sort, but there is a big difference between negotiated peace and cutting and running. I think the way the Americans have behaved is atrocious. Biden should be removed immediately (but I guess there is no process for that), and the media/facebook/twitter all have blood on their hands for their encouragement of his election. They demonised Trump and deliberately smoothed over all the failing of Biden, I read in the Telegraph that for 40 years he has been on the wrong side of every foreign policy decision.
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What would Trump have done differently? He made the Peace Pact
with the Taliban and declared they would be out in May, remember. Not saying Biden has done a good job, but he’s doing exactly what he declared pre election and what the electorate voted for him to do.
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Interviewee on the Today programme, was talking about the way America just cut and run, without thinking of how to do it in an orderly manner, he said Bagram was the biggest airbase in the world, why hadn't they evacuated from there?What would Trump have done differently? He made the Peace Pact
caveman
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I reckon Trump would have said the great majority of our forces are out and the 2500 left have not suffered any casualty in the past 18 months whilst they do a GREAT BIG BEAUTIFUL JOB in keeping the peace, keeping a bridgehead open and allowing Afghanistan to catch up with the Western world and share the tremendous resources available with us to keep America first.What would Trump have done differently? He made the Peace Pact
Keeping the peace, as are our 30000 odd troops in South Korea and thousands of others posted elsewhere around the globe.
And other such stuff.
Danllan
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History clearly isn't your strong point; they had huge experience and were very good at their particular type of soldiering, but it was in fighting colonial wars and wars of mobile containment. Neither were anything like appropriate for what started in Europe in 1914 and, in fact, were so inappropriate that the transfer of tactics - strategy aside - played into the enemy's hands...
There is a very, very definite and clear process available to remove sitting US Presidents, take a squint at the 25th Amendment.
As for his decisions, I'd say he started going wrong about 38 years ago*.*He was a very strong and vocal supporter of ours in re the Falklands.
The army should comprise geriatric soldiers only, kill two birds with one stone! NHS workload dramatically reduced.
PS: all MPs required to serve a tour on the front line.
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*He was a very strong and vocal supporter of ours in re the Falklands.
I had read that too, possibly his last correct call
I had read that too, possibly his last correct call
Pieces_of_Eight
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NATO wont do anything without resolutions in place.
Ideally NATO actions would include making provision for the re-supply of the Panjshir Valley.
Ideally NATO actions would include making provision for the re-supply of the Panjshir Valley.
Oh dear