Geronimo.

som farmer

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He is put into isolation away from the rest of the herd at the farm in Wickwar

In the news clip I saw on BBC TV News a week or so ago Ms Macdonald maintained Geronimo was in isolation ,she was stood in the pen with him, another alpaca was the other side of a field gate along side him, then another field gate and fields, no barriers that I could see to stop badgers entering pen,

Does that count as isolation?
but of course, he wouldn't have any little ones running around, no idea what you call one, would he ?
 

Muddyroads

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Exeter, Devon
He is put into isolation away from the rest of the herd at the farm in Wickwar

In the news clip I saw on BBC TV News a week or so ago Ms Macdonald maintained Geronimo was in isolation ,she was stood in the pen with him, another alpaca was the other side of a field gate along side him, then another field gate and fields, no barriers that I could see to stop badgers entering pen,

Does that count as isolation?
I took this screenshot off their camera last week as I also wondered how this could count as isolation:
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MRT

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He is put into isolation away from the rest of the herd at the farm in Wickwar

In the news clip I saw on BBC TV News a week or so ago Ms Macdonald maintained Geronimo was in isolation ,she was stood in the pen with him, another alpaca was the other side of a field gate along side him, then another field gate and fields, no barriers that I could see to stop badgers entering pen,

Does that count as isolation?
I did biosecurity assessments at one point ref tb, generally if you could get a nokia brick through a gap it was deemed not badger proof
 

jondear

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Devon
It was headline news on Radio 1 today !Ahead of an end of 20;year war!
Let's hope they find legions .Going to look a bit stupid otherwise !
We have all had cattle taken (Usually our best ones!) And then for nothing to be found at slaughter !
 

Wooly

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Let's hope they find legions .Going to look a bit stupid otherwise !

I would imagine that legions will be found 100%.

If DEFRA scientists can mix up cows brains with sheep brains while looking for BSE in sheep a few years ago, I'm sure they can accidently mix up a TB Alpaca negative test with something more positive !

They would be mad not too
 

Sid

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South Molton
It was headline news on Radio 1 today !Ahead of an end of 20;year war!
Let's hope they find legions .Going to look a bit stupid otherwise !
We have all had cattle taken (Usually our best ones!) And then for nothing to be found at slaughter !

The SCITT is a test to find if an animal has or has been exposed to tb and has produced antibodies and therefore reacts to the "test"

Just because it reacts doesn't mean it will have lesions.
 
but of course, he wouldn't have any little ones running around, no idea what you call one, would he ?

Might be worth a check of the Alpaca pedegree register.

I certainly wouldn't put it past her to have "Alpaca hand relief sessions" on her list of hobbies...

 

Treecreeper

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I would agree with your comments about the badger situation but I understand there is little evidence of widespread infection in sheep. If they do not have lesions it is unlikely they are spreading TB .
Deer yes the problem is increasing but is there much evidence of them spreading the disease? probably they dare not look!
Yes they have looked at wild deer, pre badger cull. Statistical returns suggested infection but at extremely low levels and this was primarily in fallow deer in the Gloucester area. I have only seen confirmed tb in one red deer that I shot and one other that I was called out to. I've never seen or heard of a case in roe deer.
 
Doesn't the vaccine for Johne's disease interfere with the TB test giving false positive test results???🤔

I believe so. Johnnes bacteria is m.avium paratuberculosis part of the M.Tuberculosis complex group. (MTC).

This may have been answered before but was he tested before he was imported?

He was skin tested before export, according to what his owner said. And a priming skin test given before bloods taken in UK. That was a voluntary test. He failed Enferplex twice.

The skin test is rubbish on alpacas.
 
Yes they have looked at wild deer, pre badger cull. Statistical returns suggested infection but at extremely low levels and this was primarily in fallow deer in the Gloucester area. I have only seen confirmed tb in one red deer that I shot and one other that I was called out to. I've never seen or heard of a case in roe deer.

Roe & Muntjac much less sociable?
 

le bon paysan

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Limousin, France
I believe so. Johnnes bacteria is m.avium paratuberculosis part of the M.Tuberculosis complex group. (MTC).



He was skin tested before export, according to what his owner said. And a priming skin test given before bloods taken in UK. That was a voluntary test. He failed Enferplex twice.

The skin test is rubbish on alpacas.
Went looking for an explanation of the enferplex test and found this interesting...
 

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