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GUTH doesn't seem to respond to my advice ......I can't think whyDid he go up north and buy them out of Gisburn on your advice?
GUTH doesn't seem to respond to my advice ......I can't think whyDid he go up north and buy them out of Gisburn on your advice?
It's the other side of Worcester that's a long way up north as far as I'm concernedGisburn isnt āup northāā¦ itās a very half hearted attempt if thatās as far as you getā¦
A few years ago Iād have agreed that Lancashire was the North. Nowadays Iām just getting comfortable in the car when I go through Lancashire!It's the other side of Worcester that's a long way up north as far as I'm concerned
It never pans out as folk think....anything could happenDonāt worry! Iām doing the same! Iāve a lot more feeding sheep here than this time last year!
That's cos GUTH has bought them all cos he says they gonna be Ā£130 next April . .....he's a good man standing by his predictions
Wow friction and I never said a wordSheep will be a very good trade next spring!
Old season lambs do not intrest me after the end of Dec, by then i have moved onto other things!
But if you have plenty of winter grass untill March/ April and ideally seeds grass then these small store lambs will grow into Money!
But hey why not carry on being a total bellend HFD cattle and try and score points against other TFF users like you love doing, very sad really.
What was the lambing and survival rate this spring on hill farms compared to last year?Increasing numbers of stores will be getting sold privately, especially those being put away quietly by the retailers, so I wouldn't use numbers at store sales as any particular gauge tbh.
As I posted above, HCC (the Welsh AHDB) are reporting killing numbers being down 10% currently. We all know census numbers for lambs on farm are usually nonsense, but kill numbers are pretty accurate, and no reason to think there was a particularly disastrous lambing nationally this year?
I can't remember the figures, but I don't think kill numbers through the summer have been much higher than normal, and a 10% drop at the time of the peak glut is pretty seismic.
Maybe more are being retained for breeding, rather than filling those mule breeder's pockets? That certainly won't account for 10% though.
I expect lamb price to stay OK, but without the massive uplift that we saw this Spring. If you can get Ā£100+ for them now, without incurring a wintering cost, crack on imo.
Youāll still be ok at Ā£80 next MarchOn the other hand they could be worth Ā£80 next March. We can all have a cry together then.
Itās happened before! Just not involving quite this much money!!
All this love, why don't you two just get a room!But hey why not carry on being a total bellend HFD cattle and try and score points against other TFF users like you love doing, very sad really.
All this love, why don't you two just get a room!
I know, bit harsh GUTHRIE, especially as your always quick to jump on people, having a bad day? Want to talk about it!!
I don't think he would like my hairy chinAll this love, why don't you two just get a room!
I don't think I made any wild predictions last year to get wrong. I remember posting that things could have gone t*ts up spectacularly IF we had a no-deal Brexit, which we avoided, thankfully. We certainly wouldn't have seen this April's prices with exports constrained, it sure as hell wasn't domestic trade driving it.
The contract finishing I was referring to is the retailers buying the store lambs themselves, then sending them to finishing farms for wintering. Much like B&B pigs, the finishers are paid so much/hd/week, with no risk of capital laid out. I don't know the rates offered, but I do know they are offering bonuses if you can hold them for later in the Spring. They don't intend being caught short again, and won't be in the market for volume come March/April/May.
I saw a farm in mid-Wales a few nights ago, who had loads of Waitrose store lambs on temporarily, before being shipped to cover crops in East Anglia for wintering. Whether they are normally lamb finishers over there, or the arable guys that are finding cover crops all the rage again?
Personally, I'm carrying on as normal. Everything finished before Christmas will be sold, all the smallies are on tight feed already, to hold cheaply until April. I'm willing to bet plenty will be keeping store lambs that don't normally though, expecting to see a repeat of last year. Do you ever see 2 'bonanza' years o
what % of the store la mb numbers are tied up with contracts ? .never heard of it around here. What would retailers know about buying sheep. Interested to know how all this could work?I think itās a difficult one to call and if I did it would only be a guess
Kill numbers could be wrong they have been before and at the moment the ācrackā im hearing is contradictory to the kill numbers being down
@neilo you must be in a difficult position where you predicted it wrongly last year when the job looked up and now you are looking into this year which as you say is possibly not expected to be quite as good! What the hell should you do?
I donāt know I did think although I intend to feed hoggs that this year would have a sting somewhere in the tail but I feel a bit more confident that it will likely be possible interruption now and again temporarily due to current issues rather than a general bad price
Iāve spoken to a few feeders and the general consensus of thought is stores are dear but looking back over the last fourteen months or so all stores have looked dear but not many have been bought too dear if you follow my drift
After saying that the belt usually comes off at some point
I donāt hear of any contract finishing up here it would be interesting what price you have been quoted if you donāt mind that is?
Would Ā£5.40 be enough to get folks excited? Probably not it would need to be more but they wouldnāt offer Ā£6 as they would rather take a chance? So itās likely to be within that 60p range pretty boring compared to sitting wondering for a few months!!
I donāt know many or any finishers who would rather play safe to be honest I think they would rather take it on the chin now and again to hit the jackpot when it comes around
Store lambs have been a reasonable trade early on I think because some buyers were caught out last year with Brexit talk and I feel they have got in earlier this time which has altered the trade.
I think stores will get dearer up here although steadily from now on as roots and keep become available and southern men head north for sheep
After that who knows
Shhhhh!!!!! Big mouth!!Youāll still be ok at Ā£80 next March
Will keep not be for nowt soon āgolden hoof ā effect v price of fertShhhhh!!!!! Big mouth!!
Thankfully Iāve only had one keep man double his rate. And heās the one who tries it on every couple of years. What would have gone too him have already gone elsewhere. Iām enjoying the fact he thinks I canāt possibly manage without his wintering.Will keep not be for nowt soon āgolden hoof ā effect v price of fert
what % of the store la mb numbers are tied up with contracts ? .never heard of it around here. What would retailers know about buying sheep. Interested to know how all this could work?
What was the lambing and survival rate this spring on hill farms compared to last year?
Surprising done here just how many very poor lambs are coming off Dartmoor this autumn when you would think with the summer grass growth we have had they would have done better than normal but seems not to be the case this year.
Ive never heard of it either. They would probably be able to get agents to buy the lambs,and then get them hauled to feeding farms,but surely they would want x pence per head per week.Even if the buy in price is Ā£70 now,they will be fair money by next April you would think.................Unless they can find idiots that will feed and shepherd them for next to nowt. No doubt some twerp will come on and say they have contracted to take 10,000 on,at a guaranteed Ā£20/head uplift.................provided they hit the spec/you pay the haulage both ways/cover the losses, etc, etc. They will probably charge you the interest on Ā£700,000 for 6 months as well.what % of the store la mb numbers are tied up with contracts ? .never heard of it around here. What would retailers know about buying sheep. Interested to know how all this could work?