Red Tractor liars

teslacoils · Sep 30, 2021

Nfu
AIC
RT

Stuff them all. World is short on wheat, chaps. Let's get it loaded on boats and shipped to a hungry country, and let our south-east trendy manbag genderfluid almond milk swigging vegan woke libtards go hungry.

Look at the premium on milling wheat - offer your full spec gp1s without a "sticker" and watch them pay.

Bury the Trash · Oct 1, 2021

David. said:
It's not going to happen then is it?

that's up to you ...and others like....

texelburger · Oct 1, 2021

David. said:
So when are we all going to tell RT to stuff it?
Mines up for the month end, and I am about had enough of it, but without a critical mass of others leaving it will be lonely out there.

Have mine too. I'll leave if others follow.2500 tons wheat ,OSR,Oats and a 1000 lambs.Will cost me but we have to make a stand in the name of fairness and honesty.

David. · Oct 1, 2021

All that is required for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.
Who said that?

Bury the Trash · Oct 1, 2021

John Stuart Mill.

Grass And Grain · Oct 1, 2021

David. said:
All that is required for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.
Who said that?

We're not doing nothing. We're lobbying everyone involved with letters, phone calls, complaints, suggestions of a way forward. Drilled up here, so now got all winter to get back to working on this.

The more farmers who put pen to paper, the better.

Please everyone, take a moment to send an email. To the NFU if you are a member, to AHDB, AIC, your MP, feed mills, rapeseed crushers etc.

An AHDB levy payer has paid levy, AHDB have given it to RT, RT have used it to convince everyone to only use RT grain, AIC have said only RT,SQC etc grain. Now that AHDB levy payer has had his own levy used to cut off his own market (vs imports that still are not required to be farm assured, yet the English/Welsh guy must be RT or cannot even sell a single grain to the local feed mill).

EVERYONE, PLEASE MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND WRITE SOME LETTERS EXPRESSING YOUR DISCONTENT.

Ask NFU what they are doing to do to get UK producers equal market access as imports enjoy.

Ask AHDB what they are going to do to develop markets for non-assured levy payers (that is, levy payers who have the same farm assurance standing as imports. Imports that are readily purchased by our end users).

manhill · Oct 1, 2021

SilliamWhale said:
I don't think any of those companies use the Red Tractor label on their packaging do they?

maybe scared about prosecution.

SilliamWhale · Oct 1, 2021

David. said:
So when are we all going to tell RT to stuff it?
Mines up for the month end, and I am about had enough of it, but without a critical mass of others leaving it will be lonely out there.

I won't renew.

ollie989898 · Oct 1, 2021

lazy farmer said:
I’m a livestock farmer and had my assessment yesterday. Truly pathetic.

You already have to meet very exacting standards because of who buys your milk. Red tractor is an irrelevance to your business and a waste of time.

ollie989898 · Oct 1, 2021

Grass And Grain said:
We're not doing nothing. We're lobbying everyone involved with letters, phone calls, complaints, suggestions of a way forward. Drilled up here, so now got all winter to get back to working on this.

The more farmers who put pen to paper, the better.

Please everyone, take a moment to send an email. To the NFU if you are a member, to AHDB, AIC, your MP, feed mills, rapeseed crushers etc.

An AHDB levy payer has paid levy, AHDB have given it to RT, RT have used it to convince everyone to only use RT grain, AIC have said only RT,SQC etc grain. Now that AHDB levy payer has had his own levy used to cut off his own market (vs imports that still are not required to be farm assured, yet the English/Welsh guy must be RT or cannot even sell a single grain to the local feed mill).

EVERYONE, PLEASE MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND WRITE SOME LETTERS EXPRESSING YOUR DISCONTENT.

Ask NFU what they are doing to do to get UK producers equal market access as imports enjoy.

Ask AHDB what they are going to do to develop markets for non-assured levy payers (that is, levy payers who have the same farm assurance standing as imports. Imports that are readily purchased by our end users).

NFU won't do anything- RT is their pet invention.

AHDB- come off it. They are nothing but a levy funded irrelevance. Mandatory levies should be illegal as well.

Vader · Oct 1, 2021

Clive said:
not unless either the NFU or AHDB actually do their jobs or CMA get involved and expose the corruption here ………. So yes unlikely I suspect

in the meantime we can continue to use social media to remove any credibility so anyone associated or employed by these quangos becomes a toxic laughingstock among farmers and consumers

right now the NFU and AHDB are engineering their own downfall - they are loosing our trust rapidly

Trouble is, apart from farmers, who reads farming stuff. .?
Needs the mass complaint to ASA

ollie989898 · Oct 1, 2021

The more I think about it, this mandatory this and that- it's anti-competitive and should be illegal. It's against the principles of the free market and is essentially a protection racket in all but name. There should be alternatives to RT.

Humble Village Farmer · Oct 1, 2021

David. said:
So when are we all going to tell RT to stuff it?
Mines up for the month end, and I am about had enough of it, but without a critical mass of others leaving it will be lonely out there.

A growing number are not renewing as it comes due.
Trick is to cancel direct debit anyway, otherwise it goes out when you aren't expecting it. They won't automatically expell you from the scheme as all they really want is your money.

Benifits include: more time, less cost, less bu11shit.

lazy farmer · Oct 1, 2021

For those who are football fans and wish the end of RT I have sympathy but.
Charlton Athletic and Alan curbishley spring to mind.

Humble Village Farmer · Oct 1, 2021

Clive said:
not unless either the NFU or AHDB actually do their jobs or CMA get involved and expose the corruption here ………. So yes unlikely I suspect

in the meantime we can continue to use social media to remove any credibility so anyone associated or employed by these quangos becomes a toxic laughingstock among farmers and consumers

right now the NFU and AHDB are engineering their own downfall - they are loosing our trust rapidly

Rubbish, there's nothing to stop individuals leaving. Every time someone else leaves, the market for UK farm standard grows a little bit stronger.

There is grain being imported into the UK all the time, boats with thousands of tonnes. None of it is farm assured but gets a magic sticker from the merchant or haulier. So it's not beyond the wit of man to use either the magic sticker or UK farm standard. Neither of which require a fee to red tractor.

Humble Village Farmer · Oct 1, 2021

SilliamWhale said:
I won't renew.

Nor will I

tullah · Oct 1, 2021

texelburger said:
Have mine too. I'll leave if others follow.2500 tons wheat ,OSR,Oats and a 1000 lambs.Will cost me but we have to make a stand in the name of fairness and honesty.

Stood up to the buggers in '39 and in '46 we finished them off. we can do it again. They don't know shame. Bunch of liars

robs1 · Oct 1, 2021

The problem is we need to get the central stores onside too

farmerm · Oct 1, 2021

Humble Village Farmer said:
Rubbish, there's nothing to stop individuals leaving. Every time someone else leaves the market for UK farm standard grows a little bit stronger.

There is grain being imported into the UK all the time, boats with thousands of tonnes. None of it is farm assured but gets a magic sticker from the merchant or haulier. So it's not beyond the wit of man to use either the magic sticker or UK farm standard. Neither of which require a fee to red tractor.

AIC hold all the keys to the milling industry. You could apply a magic sticker or a UK farm standard but as it stands AIC rules prevent associated mills from accepting domestic produce that is not farm assured. I cant see mills breaking rank anytime soon.

Humble Village Farmer · Oct 1, 2021

farmerm said:
AIC hold all the keys to the milling industry. You could apply a magic sticker or a UK farm standard but as it stands AIC rules prevent associated mills from accepting domestic produce that is not farm assured. I cant see mills breaking rank anytime soon.

There is already a growing market for unassured grain. But I take your point, it's a tightly controlled protection racket.

Those same mills are buying imports hand over fist.

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