Bummer!
But about par for course with them I am afraid.
Best of luck with the next stage...
RPA appeal
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Bummer!
But about par for course with them I am afraid.
Best of luck with the next stage...
Shropshire Farmer
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- Shrewsbury, Shropshire.
Thanks
Hopefully when you can verbally state your case and show the evidence sense will prevail. I’m not holding my breath!!
Hesston4860s
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I’ve been waiting for my IAAP hearing for just over 2 years, with no sign of it ever happening in the nr future due COVID. But I’m done like I’ve said it’s took it’s toll and I’m out !.
They will avoid hearings or any oral arguments like the plague. All they do is delay and postpone until any sane man will give up.....they rely on wearing you down.
The only way is to get it outside of Defra for consideration otherwise you get a whitewashed written decision. Just don’t let it overcome you, if you have a real case keep believing in yourself but you need mp’s and the ombudsman or you need to get it into “court.” Or all of them, asking questions.
Even then you got to be very very stubborn and believe in “ IF” by Rudgard Kipling.
The only way is to get it outside of Defra for consideration otherwise you get a whitewashed written decision. Just don’t let it overcome you, if you have a real case keep believing in yourself but you need mp’s and the ombudsman or you need to get it into “court.” Or all of them, asking questions.
Even then you got to be very very stubborn and believe in “ IF” by Rudgard Kipling.
Hesston4860s
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Ombudsman won’t touch it till it’s been to IAAP hearing, got in touch with them over a year ago !.
- Location
- Minehead,Somerset
Sorry to hear your decision @Hesston4860s but can understand your reasoning! Good luck with future ?
God Love NE. The dear old RPA sent me a letter yesterday, telling me that following an assessment of my soon to expire Agreement, NE has decided it does not meet the criteria for an extension. This is some 2 months after I declined their offer to roll over the Agreement.
A whiff of sour grapes I feel!!
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Have a love/hate view of this saga. I love that they can be challenged but I hate to think how many civil servants have to be employed responding to challenges. It costs you and me in the end. Can these schemes not be made more straightforward at the outset? I think death by a thousand cuts would be more attractive than going through what you're going through.
Hesston4860s
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- Nr Lincoln
update !.
Finally have a date for a face to face hearing !.
Wonder if I should tell them what I know that they definitely appear not too, and have there paperwork to back it up !.
Finally have a date for a face to face hearing !.
Wonder if I should tell them what I know that they definitely appear not too, and have there paperwork to back it up !.
fieldfarmer
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I wouldn't, they may put the meeting back to enable themselves time to discredited your paperwork, surprise them and good luck.
Well, in a Court, both sides have to have make disclosure... allegedly.
But this is not a Court. Keep your powder dry @Hesston4860s and let rip on the day...
... and keep us all posted
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- Lincolnshire
Record it all.
Pleased for you....if you can get oral hearing you can get some form of discussion rather than opaque whitewash.
I would keep your powder dry and stay totally focussed on your trump card because they will use any and every means possible to deflect your purpose.
I would keep your powder dry and stay totally focussed on your trump card because they will use any and every means possible to deflect your purpose.
Hesston4860s
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Oh I ment tell them on the day !, no way in hell will I let them know before handWell, in a Court, both sides have to have make disclosure... allegedly.
But this is not a Court. Keep your powder dry @Hesston4860s and let rip on the day...
... and keep us all posted
Hesston4860s
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- Nr Lincoln
Well it’s Appealness eve !, unless it all goes to sh1t between now and 10.30 int morning we shall have a decision !.
Best over luck. I hope you get a fair hearing.
Hope all goes well for you tomorrow morning.
Only hand over copies of any of your evidential documentation....
Stay cool, do not lose sight of your primary point they will try and deflect you.
Concentrate and emphasise that crucial concern both at the outset and conclusion of any presentation.
Hopefully you will get some satisfaction and lance the boil. All the best.
Concentrate and emphasise that crucial concern both at the outset and conclusion of any presentation.
Hopefully you will get some satisfaction and lance the boil. All the best.
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- N.Lincs
Good luck
Keep it simple.
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