Sowing late Stubble Turnips

The fat lady has sung and the sheep have been turned into the late sown crop of Stubble turnips, on our neighbours land. Just cultivated and rolled ,with the seed spun on, no fertiliser. A little bit of useful feed but disappointing considering he near perfect growing weather.
The bottom picture shows where there has been a test dig for a proposed water pipe and the turnips are five times better, interesting 🧐




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nonemouse

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Mixed Farmer
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North yorks
The fat lady has sung and the sheep have been turned into the late sown crop of Stubble turnips, on our neighbours land. Just cultivated and rolled ,with the seed spun on, no fertiliser. A little bit of useful feed but disappointing considering he near perfect growing weather.
The bottom picture shows where there has been a test dig for a proposed water pipe and the turnips are five times better, interesting 🧐




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SU herbicide holding them back, but not where soil been mixed/dug would be my thought
 
Definitely herb damage, most probably an SU but those volunteers wouldn't have helped my h either brassicas don't like competition early on.

Did you cultivate before sowing the turnips????
VolunteerS definitely don’t help, but the line where the sprayer hasn’t been shows what lost potential there is because of the residual spray. The second field was broadcast after a subsoil er with a crumbler on the back Then rolled in.
what does Su stand for.
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
VolunteerS definitely don’t help, but the line where the sprayer hasn’t been shows what lost potential there is because of the residual spray. The second field was broadcast after a subsoil er with a crumbler on the back Then rolled in.
what does Su stand for.
Sulfonyurea aka Ally and whatever it is called now! Either change chemistry to a pure contact herbicide, or plough/deep disc after using it in the Spring.

I learned my lesson the year after that Ally came in! Lost a crop, much like yours.

Also found that DD some cover crops and autum bumblebird will come unstuck, germinate and then struggle to get going then fizzle out. Didn't realise what the contract lads had used on one field. My fault....
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
We use SU's in barley every year and I have never seen a problem in a following stubble turnip crop. We normally DD in, but this year it was just broadcast on the stubble ahead or a week's light rain (no rolling).

We do only use a low rate of SU though, so I wonder if that makes a difference? Serviced agronomists recommending putting high levels on perhaps?
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
We use SU's in barley every year and I have never seen a problem in a following stubble turnip crop. We normally DD in, but this year it was just broadcast on the stubble ahead or a week's light rain (no rolling).

We do only use a low rate of SU though, so I wonder if that makes a difference? Serviced agronomists recommending putting high levels on perhaps?
Cynic.... Probably right though.

Out of the job nowadays.
 
We use SU's in barley every year and I have never seen a problem in a following stubble turnip crop. We normally DD in, but this year it was just broadcast on the stubble ahead or a week's light rain (no rolling).

We do only use a low rate of SU though, so I wonder if that makes a difference? Serviced agronomists recommending putting high levels on perhaps?

I think your aitchison moves enough soil.

I simply cannot get reliable turnips or osr with a 750
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
I think your aitchison moves enough soil.

I simply cannot get reliable turnips or osr with a 750

Surely any drill is only scratching the surface to DD turnips? Next to no soil ever moved, whatever the drill.

As above, it was broadcast on with a slug pelleter ahead of rain this year, then the gate shut until I went back with some N.
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
We use SU's in barley every year and I have never seen a problem in a following stubble turnip crop. We normally DD in, but this year it was just broadcast on the stubble ahead or a week's light rain (no rolling).

We do only use a low rate of SU though, so I wonder if that makes a difference? Serviced agronomists recommending putting high levels on perhaps?
Perhaps higher rainfall than Norfolk?
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
I think your aitchison moves enough soil.

I simply cannot get reliable turnips or osr with a 750
the BB seed struggled Autumn 2020 after a failed WW crop that had been redrilled with SB, and had a double dose of herbicides.... I disced about 3ac and broadcast which came quite well though...

I think slow and deep. would probably work. I did some stubble turnips for a neighbour and it was not wonderful, where I got a deep drilling trench, they came well. scratting on the top was less successful..
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
Surely any drill is only scratching the surface to DD turnips? Next to no soil ever moved, whatever the drill.

As above, it was broadcast on with a slug pelleter ahead of rain this year, then the gate shut until I went back with some N.
I always used to broadcast onto combine stubble but found a pass with the discs first was beneficial as I could drop seed rate with a better take. The downside was the worked land did not hold the stock as well in a wet time. Still better than ploughing which one neighbour used to do... :)
 

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