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som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
PNC autumn calvers yesterday, very pleased, nothing much wrong at all, 1 cystic, 2 bit dirty, and 1 immaculate conception ! Obvious how, bought in cow, that calved 8 weeks before due date, vets, so about 14 days dry, and if vet is right, got caught in the first week, post calving, it will be interesting to see what comes out, no bulls here !
RT today, not to badish, one point, any 'off' silage, we discard into a corner, not allowed, somebody might feed the cows with it, we have no outside labour, otherwise the usual bits of tin etc.
Next, TB herd test 17th always a worry, next doors down again, bugger all we can do though, just hope for best.
1 cow, with obvious 'lung' problems, get shot, before, or after ? Vets opinion, doesn't think it's TB, so wait, till after, if she fails at abattoir, worth b-all, if fails test, worth £1200 or whatever they are paying.
 

Jdunn55

Member
Totally agree. Not sure what the rules are on welfare. Or what removal times are either.
When we did ours, had to wait 1 week after calving before the cows could be removed, welfare is the same as any other cow, cow comes first. I felt like worming them all so they couldn't enter the food chain due to withdrawal just to give 2 fingers to the arseholes who create the rules.
You can do emergency slaughter as well and still get the tb compensation which is something to bare in mind @Sid if something goes wrong at calving - really sorry fir your test, tb is sh!t.
 

Jdunn55

Member
Quick question regarding tb, I've got to have my test fairly soon, if I go down do I still have to have the bloody woman from apha come around and tell me it's my fault we've gone with tb? Or have they scrapped that sh!t?
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
When we did ours, had to wait 1 week after calving before the cows could be removed, welfare is the same as any other cow, cow comes first. I felt like worming them all so they couldn't enter the food chain due to withdrawal just to give 2 fingers to the arseholes who create the rules.
You can do emergency slaughter as well and still get the tb compensation which is something to bare in mind @Sid if something goes wrong at calving - really sorry fir your test, tb is sh!t.

I asked if I could open the cow after she was shot on farm due to being heavily pregnant and remove calf rather than watch it suffocating

Was categorically told I would not be paid for that cow.

This cow stayed on farm longer than the ones that went to slaughterhouse. But I was refused permission to wait until calf was born because it was further than 28 days from calving IIRC. Ended up being a week off calving
 

Jdunn55

Member
I asked if I could open the cow after she was shot on farm due to being heavily pregnant and remove calf rather than watch it suffocating

Was categorically told I would not be paid for that cow.

This cow stayed on farm longer than the ones that went to slaughterhouse. But I was refused permission to wait until calf was born because it was further than 28 days from calving IIRC. Ended up being a week off calving
They really are a bunch of f*cking pricks 😞
 
Location
West Wales
Quick question regarding tb, I've got to have my test fairly soon, if I go down do I still have to have the bloody woman from apha come around and tell me it's my fault we've gone with tb? Or have they scrapped that sh!t?
Think so. Maybe just on phone though due to COVID. We were meant to have one after the second test but they’ve not been but did have to have an hour long phone call telling me my wrongs.
I asked if I could open the cow after she was shot on farm due to being heavily pregnant and remove calf rather than watch it suffocating

Was categorically told I would not be paid for that cow.

This cow stayed on farm longer than the ones that went to slaughterhouse. But I was refused permission to wait until calf was born because it was further than 28 days from calving IIRC. Ended up being a week off calving
We had one shot on farm, we cut open and pulled calf had to just stitch back up.
Was a horrific day really
 

pine_guy

Member
Location
North Cumbria
Pre milking tea and toast. Should have started already but tanker only just arrived due to snow higher up 🥶
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Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Quick question regarding tb, I've got to have my test fairly soon, if I go down do I still have to have the bloody woman from apha come around and tell me it's my fault we've gone with tb? Or have they scrapped that sh!t?
Farm report.
I did mine via teams.

Can be useful as long as the person doing it isn't condescending.

I was curt with one a few years who accused me of being high risk because I bought in pre tb test. I told them I wouldn't have had to if they didn't take false positives with gamma and put restrictions on purchases after a breakdown.

She backed down then
 

Jdunn55

Member
Farm report.
I did mine via teams.

Can be useful as long as the person doing it isn't condescending.

I was curt with one a few years who accused me of being high risk because I bought in pre tb test. I told them I wouldn't have had to if they didn't take false positives with gamma and put restrictions on purchases after a breakdown.

She backed down then
The last one told me I should have planned for this to happen, I responded it's nearly impossible to plan for it, she flew off the handle and told me I'm being an idiot basically. Happened to have a heifer bulling that day, I turned to her and said so 1001 is bulling today she's from one of my best cows, do I ai her or not bother because she's going to go down with tb at the next test, after all I need to plan?

She also backed off then
 

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