Public Accounts Committee enquiry into ELMS

MrNoo · Jan 10, 2022

andybk said:
maybe else where in the thread ,

just seen this in the FT

George Eustice, environment secretary, said: “We disagree with many of the points made by the committee which fail to take account of recent developments. “Farm incomes have improved significantly since the UK voted to leave the EU in 2016 and there will never be a better time to improve the way we reward farmers.”

so they are taking credit for post covid shortage increasing pricing , what happens when we are back to normal ? you nob !

Is he bloody stupid or just deluded?? Fecking useless idiot.

Timbo · Jan 10, 2022

andybk said:
maybe else where in the thread ,

just seen this in the FT

George Eustice, environment secretary, said: “We disagree with many of the points made by the committee which fail to take account of recent developments. “Farm incomes have improved significantly since the UK voted to leave the EU in 2016 and there will never be a better time to improve the way we reward farmers.”

so they are taking credit for post covid shortage increasing pricing , what happens when we are back to normal ? you nob !

I would venture to disagree that the "average Medium Farm" Profit is £22k / annum also...

steveR · Jan 10, 2022

andybk said:
maybe else where in the thread ,

just seen this in the FT

George Eustice, environment secretary, said: “We disagree with many of the points made by the committee which fail to take account of recent developments. “Farm incomes have improved significantly since the UK voted to leave the EU in 2016 and there will never be a better time to improve the way we reward farmers.”

FFS!!!

Treg · Jan 10, 2022

Steevo said:
I wonder if he has spoken to many pig farmers recently....!

From what I've read at his family restaurant he & his brother discuss their farm businesses which include a very well kept herd of pigs.

Farma Parma · Jan 10, 2022

Timbo said:
I would venture to disagree that the "average Medium Farm" Profit is £22k / annum also...

Take my sub away & id pretty much say id make a profit 2 years out of 10 if iam lucky & thats pretty much down all too the worlds weather nowt we do year in year out.
This Financial year deffo being one of them & dont think ive not had this since 2008 looking at accounts here.
we wont be here much longer unless of course unless i pay next too no Rent then its a diff job totally. there is plenty no diff to me lots of neighbours & beyond all in same boat
Keep the sub & i'll make 6 out of 10 years a profit having something to reinvest also.
All the SUB as we all know gets spent on inputs or rent or finance we dont bank it away in some off shore account (As if)

britishblue · Jan 10, 2022

Unlike a friend whose aristocratic landlord in the south of Scotland parked his rent in the Cayman Islands!

Extreme Optimist · Jan 10, 2022

Well, I have just emailed my MP with my thoughts on this. Probably a complete waste of time and effort, but I bet most in Westminster have not got a clue what is going on (and probably don't care) but maybe if we all bombard our MP's with letters/emails, it might just make them sit up and take notice - very much doubt it, but it made me feel better!!!

Steevo · Jan 10, 2022

curlietailz said:
So it says here—-
“”The Department asserts that environmental benefits can be delivered
alongside improvements in farm productivity, and that these improvementswill
mean that, despite taking land out of production to deliver environmental benefits,
farmers can produce more food from the remaining land.””

How can farmers produce more food if land is taken out of production for the scheme

if we could produce more food do you not think we’d be doing so on all our land already

especially when you factor in the price of fertilizer and increase in sprays and other units and the crazy manure rules

there will be vastly reduced food production
There will be empty shelves
For sure

once you have to rely on importing your food market forces will push the price up
“You want this ( insert am abroad place) bread sending over to your little island Mr English ?? It’ll be £10 a loaf please “”

Knowing how much of our energy supply infrastructure, or London buildings etc are owned by foreign companies….it might well end up that foreign investors buy up the UK land and farms, and then we can’t even avoid imports by producing ourselves, because our food production has been sold off to foreign owners.

Probably already halfway there in terms of the food factories ownership!

Farma Parma · Jan 10, 2022

Extreme Optimist said:
Well, I have just emailed my MP with my thoughts on this. Probably a complete waste of time and effort, but I bet most in Westminster have not got a clue what is going on (and probably don't care) but maybe if we all bombard our MP's with letters/emails, it might just make them sit up and take notice - very much doubt it, but it made me feel better!!!

My Local one yes AMT praised NZ Lamb more than our own thats how clued up she is

Extreme Optimist · Jan 10, 2022

Farma Parma said:
My Local one yes AMT praised NZ Lamb more than our own thats how clued up she is

I have a feeling she won't get in next time! At least I hope not!!!! Shocking lack of knowledge when she is MP for one of the biggest livestock counties in the UK

Raider112 · Jan 10, 2022

Extreme Optimist said:
Well, I have just emailed my MP with my thoughts on this. Probably a complete waste of time and effort, but I bet most in Westminster have not got a clue what is going on (and probably don't care) but maybe if we all bombard our MP's with letters/emails, it might just make them sit up and take notice - very much doubt it, but it made me feel better!!!

Great minds! I started mine with a rant about the Downing street parties and the sacrifices the rest of us made but I got round to this. Everyone else get typing.

Farma Parma · Jan 10, 2022

Extreme Optimist said:
I have a feeling she won't get in next time! At least I hope not!!!! Shocking lack of knowledge when she is MP for one of the biggest livestock counties in the UK

were gonna end up voting for no one tho coz none of the rest are any better

Farma Parma · Jan 10, 2022

Should we be sending them two documents too all farming related contacts & beyond???

le bon paysan · Jan 10, 2022

Farmers to have £1.8 billion pre-Brexit cash removed amid warning many will go bust

Farmers in England will have their direct payments, worth £1.8 billion through the EU’s Common Agricultural Policy, completely taken away.

www.thelondoneconomic.com

delilah · Jan 10, 2022

Chair of the PAC. Seems prepared to go to war with Useless. There must be people on here farming in his constituency. Talk to him.

https://www.cliftonbrown.co.uk/

edit: What were the chances of the Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee being a farmer ? Use him.

Steevo · Jan 10, 2022

Perhaps we should invite him on here?

delilah · Jan 10, 2022

Steevo said:
Perhaps we should invite him on here?

Really needs a constituent of his to do so. Whenever you email an MP they ask you to use a postcode checker or somesuch as a filter to check that you are worthy of their attention, which is fair enough I guess. Must be folks on here farming in his constituency.

Farma Parma · Jan 10, 2022

delilah said:
Really needs a constituent of his to do so. Whenever you email an MP they ask you to use a postcode checker or somesuch as a filter to check that you are worthy of their attention, which is fair enough I guess. Must be folks on here farming in his constituency.

seeing as ours is AMT i wont waste the email.

slackjawedyokel · Jan 10, 2022

Farma Parma said:
were gonna end up voting for no one tho coz none of the rest are any better

That’s what I did last time (spoiled my ballot paper). I wouldn’t vote for AMT or Boris and I sure as hell wasn’t going to vote for any of the other lot!

Grass And Grain · Jan 10, 2022

Looks like I'll have to get a job and put the farm down to LR/rewilding. Oh, hang on, I've got less than 500ha, so I'm not allowed to do that option.

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