The war in Ukraine...

farmerm · Apr 15, 2022

Muck Spreader said:
I think we could find a lot of the crew joined him. Amongst the rumours, I heard a Turkish boat had picked up 50+ survivors.

Hopefully the Turkish boat will need to make an emergency stop at the nearest safe port.... Odessa... More Russian POWs that Ukraine can then exchange for their own.

Technically.. as Russia has not declared war and says this is not a war... can their be POW's? Surely any Russian in Ukraine without a boarder stamp in their passport must either be a spy or an illegal immigrant and as such they are not covered by the Geneva convention.... Instead any Russian captured is subject to local law in Ukraine... there is in place a government order in Ukraine that says spys can be shot on the spot....

farmerm · Apr 15, 2022

BrianV said:
CIA are now tonight warning the Russians may be preparing to use tactical nuclear weapons, the West may end up regretting pushing the Russians too far with the endless build up & supply of weapons to Ukraine, things are starting to get out of hand & some buggers going to pay very dearly for it!

Putin has been warning that since about day 2 of his 4 day war... Have Russians and Ukrainians not already paid dear for Putins folly? Why are you such a Putin apologist? Where would you have drawn the line at Russian expansion? Putin has nukes so we should disband our armed forces roll out the red carpet, allow him to take up residency in Buckingham Palace and learn Russia? We do have nukes too! The West are not trying to do anything other than help Ukraine push Russia back to its own boarders. The biggest mistake was that the West response looked week when Russia took Crimea, now Putin has been stunned by Western support for Ukraine, he has been surprised and is now pee'd off at his own miscalculation.

BrianV · Apr 15, 2022

farmerm said:
Putin has been warning that since about day 2 of his 4 day war... Have Russians and Ukrainians not already paid dear for Putins folly? Why are you such a Putin apologist? Where would you have drawn the line at Russian expansion? Putin has nukes so we should disband our armed forces roll out the red carpet, allow him to take up residency in Buckingham Palace and learn Russia? We do have nukes too! The West are not trying to do anything other than help Ukraine push Russia back to its own boarders. The biggest mistake was that the West response looked week when Russia took Crimea, now Putin has been stunned by Western support for Ukraine, he has been surprised and is now pee'd off at his own miscalculation.

I'm just telling you what the latest CIA information released tonight is, they have been pretty accurate so far so let's hope this time they're mistaken, you can only embarrass a country so much before it strikes back hard, I thought this is what many on here wanted & expected?

Hindsight · Apr 15, 2022

BrianV said:
I'm just telling you what the latest CIA information released tonight is, they have been pretty accurate so far so let's hope this time they're mistaken, you can only embarrass a country so much before it strikes back hard, I thought this is what many on here wanted & expected?

Brian. No we do not want use of nuclear weapons. In fact no use of weapons. Mr Putin has it within his gift to end this madness. As to your comment 'embarrass', well the less said about such sentiment the better given the circumstances. I am not going to admonish you as for the past few weeks you have been consistent. The people of Ukraine should have stood to one side and let the Russians do what they please. Well, they haven't, and if only a small proportion of what is being reported as atrocities by Russian forces is true then it looks to me as though they were correct in their opinions of Russians. Propaganda maybe Brian but even I am finding the Russians repugnant now and becoming jaundiced about Russians in general. What a world.

Wellytrack · Apr 15, 2022

Brian using t’internet’s.

Devil's advocate · Apr 15, 2022

BrianV said:
I'm just telling you what the latest CIA information released tonight is, they have been pretty accurate so far so let's hope this time they're mistaken, you can only embarrass a country so much before it strikes back hard, I thought this is what many on here wanted & expected?

Yes Ukraine has been embrassed for centuries, its citizens robbed, raped, murdered its resources stripped.

So it is striking back & russki invaders don't like it Good.

Russia will keep losing , until it behaves like a decent country.

All the rape & murder has really incentivised NATO countries to arm Ukraine to the teeth.

Devil's advocate · Apr 15, 2022

Devil's advocate said:
Yes Ukraine has been embrassed for centuries, its citizens robbed, raped, murdered its resources stripped.

So it is striking back & russki invaders don't like it Good.

Russia will keep losing , until it behaves like a decent country.

All the rape & murder has really incentivised NATO countries to arm Ukraine to the teeth.

Russia pundit loses it over Ukraine losses 'Motherland was attacked'

RUSSIAN State TV has seen a pro-Kremlin pundit erupt over Russia's losses in Ukraine and demand Vladimir Putin escalate the 'special operation' to an all-out war.

www.express.co.uk

Devil's advocate · Apr 15, 2022

Charlie Gill said:

I like her style.

Bit of a sour puss

BrianV · Apr 15, 2022

Hindsight said:
Brian. No we do not want use of nuclear weapons. In fact no use of weapons. Mr Putin has it within his gift to end this madness. As to your comment 'embarrass', well the less said about such sentiment the better given the circumstances. I am not going to admonish you as for the past few weeks you have been consistent. The people of Ukraine should have stood to one side and let the Russians do what they please. Well, they haven't, and if only a small proportion of what is being reported as atrocities by Russian forces is true then it looks to me as though they were correct in their opinions of Russians. Propaganda maybe Brian but even I am finding the Russians repugnant now and becoming jaundiced about Russians in general. What a world.

But isn't this what I have said from the very start we were all too well aware of what the Russians are capable of before this all started, they have shown it to the world many times before, people on here have cheered as the Ukrainians decided independence was preferable to compromise & have been full of enthusiasm as the West have indulged in this proxy war while all the time people in positions of power know full well that the Russians are never going to back down even if it eventually entails the destruction of Ukraine as we know it.

Wellytrack · Apr 15, 2022

BrianV said:
But isn't this what I have said from the very start we were all too well aware of what the Russians are capable of before this all started, they have shown it to the world many times before, people on here have cheered as the Ukrainians decided independence was preferable to compromise & have been full of enthusiasm as the West have indulged in this proxy war while all the time people in positions of power know full well that the Russians are never going to back down even if it eventually entails the destruction of Ukraine as we know it.

To compromise means to reason with, to come to a deal with, do you think Putin is someone you would reason with, trust, or have a binding deal with??

BrianV · Apr 15, 2022

Wellytrack said:
To compromise means to reason with, to come to a deal with, do you think Putin is someone you would reason with, trust, or have a binding deal with??

No idea but I would guess the way Ukraine's leadership have approached it must be a lesson for someone.

Devil's advocate · Apr 15, 2022

Wellytrack said:
To compromise means to reason with, to come to a deal with, do you think Putin is someone you would reason with, trust, or have a binding deal with??

Mikhal must be spining in his grave.

Putin just lies bullies, steals he sadly chooses war & the rest of us just have to respond.

Wellytrack · Apr 15, 2022

BrianV said:
No idea but I would guess the way Ukraine's leadership have approached it must be a lesson for someone.

Or you could just answer the question rather than deflect

BrianV · Apr 15, 2022

Wellytrack said:
Or you could just answer the question rather than deflect

I thought I did!

Wellytrack · Apr 15, 2022

BrianV said:
I thought I did!

No you didn’t and you know it.

Wellytrack · Apr 15, 2022

Devil's advocate said:
Mikhal must be spining in his grave.

Putin just lies bullies, steals he sadly chooses war & the rest of us just have to respond.

Fortunately he isnae deed yet!

BrianV · Apr 15, 2022

Wellytrack said:
No you didn’t and you know it.

I think I did, I said I didn't know which obviously no one could really know for sure, but that the way the Ukrainians have gone about was a lesson to be learnt!

BrianV · Apr 15, 2022

Devil's advocate said:
Mikhal must be spining in his grave.

Putin just lies bullies, steals he sadly chooses war & the rest of us just have to respond.

If only he had been able to stay in power maybe things would be different, unfortunately the West made him look weak when the Soviet Union collapsed & that dopey drunk Yeltsin took over, the Russians then wanted a really strong man to bring back their pride & this is what we have now created.

Mr Mackay · Apr 15, 2022

BrianV said:
If only he had been able to stay in power maybe things would be different, unfortunately the West made him look weak when the Soviet Union collapsed & that dopey drunk Yeltsin took over, the Russians then wanted a really strong man to bring back their pride & this is what we have now created.

Less of the we

BrianV · Apr 15, 2022

Mr Mackay said:
Less of the we

Are you sure.

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