What's the population 65 million? 80% would only have mild to moderate symptoms, yeah sorry, should have said 13 million
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I never said that, you're making things up yet again. I was quoting Oval's figures on how many could suffer worse than moderate symptoms. Not sure why you find it hilarious, not drunk are you?
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I cant believe there are still people rising to this joker
Flu is more severe for children than covid but for the elderly it’s the other way round which is why more protection should have been given to the elderly while youngsters mixed and built up immunity this also has a benefit for the elderly in the long run lockdown has damaged all age groups across the board.
They need to take their guilt out on the right people corrupt useless politicians who aloud money to be removed from tax payers and used to fund experiments which were banned in their own countries there are countless old people who rely on younger people for their existence more so as our older population increases the only people to blame for any old persons death from this virus are the people funding the research and the idiots in the labs that let it escape don’t let the real culprits of the hook by pretending some carer was responsible for old peoples deaths .
15 million were potentially vulnerable unfortunately the vaccine is poor and pretty ineffective which is probably causing the virus to easily survive and continue as just like us it’s survival of the fittest
Young fit people die everyday from many things they always have unfortunately the vast majority don’t become seriously unwell or die from covid tho stay positive even a long life is a short life enjoy it as much as you can stop living in fear .
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The vaccines are not for the current variants, giving yourself a vaccine to the previous variant is at best a waste of time and comes with harmful side effects.
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Kinda flogging a dead horse with this stuff now but guess it still getting clicks or wouldn't be there.
There's a lot of people living their lives in needless fear, very sad
You may be right in some of that but if your child brought it back from school, gave it to you, and in turn you passed it onto a parent who ended up in hospital or worse you would feel guilty about it, you wouldn't be human if you weren't.
Mt wife is fully vaccinated, her brother isn't, he has many health issues and lives alone, he is probably even more into denial than Essex man but he won't hear of my wife staying clear. She says it's his responsibility as he chooses not to protect himself but when it happens she will naturally feel guilty if she gave it to him.
I don't think anybody can say it's pretty ineffective. It was designed for the original version and we've had several mutations which have led to it being less able to stop the spread but on the whole it kept most people out of hospital or worse.
See my previous post. Do you have any REPUTABLE figures that show that the numbers of vaccinated and unvaccinated in hospital were the same percentage wise? I don't think you do and if you don't it's a bit silly to say the vaccine is a waste of time.
Unfortunately it hasn't stopped the spread but it has made the symptoms much less harmful and allowed us to get back to some sort of normality.
But you know that in your heart of hearts as the evidence is irrefutable.
This could happen with other viruses also it’s always been the way that if you were unwell you didn’t go near your old and frail relatives
Most people would never have had to go to the hospital and it was never capable of stopping the spread
I agree that most would never have to go to hospital but you said yourself that 15 million were potentially vulnerable, just a fraction of them would have caused a massive problem.
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Think we agreed that most people (90%)dying are vaccinated....presumably you don't think the vaccine worked for them, yet I guess you would blame the other 10% on the fact they were unvaccinated?
So the bonus you take from it is that even most aged and frail can still deal with the virus I think we need to be more positive towards this it’s always worst case and a continuing running total for well over 2 years and that’s still nowhere near 15 million you were told the chance of survival without a vax from the start it was over 90% even for the elderly
Did we agree with that? I thought all the figures said that the deaths and hospitalisations were a lot higher percentage wise in the unvaccinated. You were asked to provide reputable facts to back up your claims, should be easy if what you say is correct.