That’s that cleared up then.Apparently not. I’m just an egotistical b*stard
That’s that cleared up then.Apparently not. I’m just an egotistical b*stard
Recording 600 ewes is absolutely fine, but why wouldn’t you record 1200 if you could ?
600 ewes - 900 lambs - 450 males / 450 females. Top 10% males - 45 animals. Do 1200 and top 10% is 90 animals etx.
Also we wish to use a number of sires over 100 ewes each in order to give a meaningful number of lambs to record and compare off each. This necessitates more than 600 ewes.
We have recorded 600 ewes but now we would like to record more.
I just wanted to see what sort of numbers were actually being done, and by whom, and what their set up was and staffing levels etc.
It has little to do with ego despite @unlacedgecko suggestion.
This place is getting harder and harder to ask people practical questions about farming.
It depends how deep you wish to go, if you're only looking for sire verification and specific genes or defects then dam DNA isn't requiredI thought DNA meant all the mother's had to be sequenced first?
I know, but for the hill producer that sells everything store anything more is surely just too much of your sale price
Those selling the recording idea would suggest not, but in reality it does.I would have thought that it would be pretty obvious that the more head you record, the better the data would be.
Running a pure Nch Cheviot flock, I would like to be selling draft ewes at 4 crop which should leave good value in them, but keep a portion of the very best of them another year to breed tups from, using them before selling them as 2/3 shear.As a hill producer that sells store, is recording going to benefit you?
Yer you got me drank too much last night so feeling a bit tender
@Global ovine used to record several thousand Romney ewes singled handed (with his Mrs driving the truck). That was lambing outside, attending each birth site with the data logger and tagging at birth, presumably single sire mated.
Not sure what exactly you're wanting to know? Single sire mate, then have enough competent staff on hand at lambing to tag at birth. Tim Leeming (@Pardoo Prime) had a precision lambing system with mobs of 50ewes on 3ha paddocks which I think would assist massively.
Or use DNA, if your system can afford it. This would allow mob mating, which would also be a good test of ram functionality, fertility and libido.
Aye that’s true. But they are having to go to more dna recording because they are struggling to get enough decent horse men / woman. That’s what they said anyway. Hoping to go out and see them in action.IIRC Wairere in NZ tag/record everything at birth, using lots of people on horseback with a datalogger each. Just needs enough (competent) staff and the recording kit I guess.
We weighed,recorded, bolus'd n weaned 450 lambs yesterday, psion packed up c50 lambs to go which we recorded manually. Also bagged and toothed ewes and recorded culls. 2 groups took 2 of us all day.Yer you got me drank too much last night so feeling a bit tender
I simply want to know who in the Uk is currently recording a large number of ewes, how many, what’s their system, how much labour etc. Hopefully found out by going to see them / speaking to them.
I’m interested in talking to folk who are doing what I want to / am going to do.
But I’m also curious as to whether some of it is possible / sensible.
I was hoping for a bit of a list of folk / farms recoding big numbers of ewes.
But there is a level beyond which the increase in genetic gain/statistical analysis slows (i am told by the boffins)I would have thought that it would be pretty obvious that the more head you record, the better the data would be.
They don’t like me so I doubt I’d get many answers from them.Innovis would surely be another, with their nucleus supposed to be 1000 ewes lambing outside?
Very secretive operation though, so likely as forthcoming with info on that as they are with their ebvs.
I would imagine they rely on having plenty of lambing staff and data loggers that can be synced (using Border Software iirc).
Can I ask why?They don’t like me so I doubt I’d get many answers from them.
Why they don’t like me ?Can I ask why?
Yeah how did you pee them off?Why they don’t like me ?
I was being slightly tongue in cheek.Yeah how did you pee them off?
Fair enough but people shouldn't judge a book by its cover says a topicalI was being slightly tongue in cheek.
But.... I didn’t sell them my sheep when they wanted them.
And whenever I go and try to speak to the innovis lot at a show I generally get met with a group of clean cut schoffel wearing lads who treat me with a fair element of suspicion
But if you saw me you’d see why to be fair.