toquark
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Don't know, but it will definitely increase. A good proportion of the livestock guys near me have moved to part time and picked up other work, adjusting their farming systems to suit.
BPS removal, HOW will you replace yours??
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Ceri
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I didn’t. Still waiting for the eureka moment when I hold my hands up & go I was wrong we’re far far better off after Brexit praise be to the lord….
Ceri
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I DIDNT MATE… I was a firm remainer……. I couldn’t believe that every farmer at the time was like let’s get out let’s get out…….! Makes me laugh now it seems they all say I can’t believe these other farmers voted to leaveAnd you believed that !
Well actually I must admit I believed that in the ‘70’s but then I learned by experience….
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At a guess runaway machinery prices, high rents, expensive fert chem and seed will probably the starting point. The standing value of farm businesses will fall, everything else is relative.
The term used at the time was "turkeys voting for Christmas... well guess what Christmas is nearly hereI DIDNT MATE… I was a firm remainer……. I couldn’t believe that every farmer at the time was like let’s get out let’s get out…….! Makes me laugh now it seems they all say I can’t believe these other farmers voted to leave
i think more of a worry is the actual parameters you will be allowed to farm within in the future. EA and other quangos are running the industry. Net Zero and the rest is just a real turn off.
Red Fred BondWe don't drive a Range Rover but a Discovery as well as our his-and-hers old Skoda estates. If I had to drive across the Gobi Desert with Vlad's agents hot on my tail, I wouldn't be reaching for the Disco keys as first choice.
The parameters are measured in mm's around here!!
If it wasn't for Christmas most of those turkeys wouldn't be aroundThe term used at the time was "turkeys voting for Christmas... well guess what Christmas is nearly here
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What are you basing that statement on?
Courier
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- M62 - M1 - M18 triangle
Apologies - I hadn’t handn’t realised I was responding to a fellow remainer who likely abhors the way Johnsons 80 seat majority achieved with less than 43.5 % of the votes managed to railroad parliament into accepting the 52/48 % “advisory” 2016 referendum by illegal means for the sake of tax advantages for those who would never have to change their lifestyle even in the event of wealth taxes over £10mI DIDNT MATE… I was a firm remainer……. I couldn’t believe that every farmer at the time was like let’s get out let’s get out…….! Makes me laugh now it seems they all say I can’t believe these other farmers voted to leave
Steevo
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Better to have lived and lost than never lived at all.
29% failed to make a profit!!
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
Stats be made any way to prove any point. Pretty much meaningless.
This is all true ,but I dont think they had a government othering £500 ha as mentioned earlier to landowners for setaside (then of course there is the potential for carbon/ phosphate offsets too ) effectively stifling anyone who can operate in the new trading environment - so those who survive will not be the same hands on skilled , resourceful, flexible , practical opportunists who could sort of make it work somehow .
It will be the opposite sadly .
500 quid a Ha doesn't pay the bills!!!!
nor does renting land at 200/acre , but renting at 50 might well as a generalisation
oh yes.. that might be more agreeable!!
even £100 an acre might be a realistic new normal with out BPS and no opportunity for any other schemes