Tractor + driver going rate ?

Agriimark · Oct 8, 2023

Drillman said:
Time to start a new thread asking which brand of energy drink and sunglasses are best while living the dream carting spuds

trend here is pit vipers, redbull and mullets it seems

serf · Oct 8, 2023

Clive said:
.. who knew it was a 15 page topic

Anyone would have thought it's click bait

serf · Oct 8, 2023

Agriimark said:
trend here is pit vipers, redbull and mullets it seems

Mullets seem to be entrend at min

Wtf is that all about don't folk look in mirror or do they just go to hair cut shop and say " can you make me look a tw@ please )

Don't know what pit vipers means

Agriimark · Oct 8, 2023

serf said:
Mullets seem to be entrend at min

Wtf is that all about don't folk look in mirror or do they just go to hair cut shop and say " can you make me look a tw@ please )

Don't know what pit vipers means

clive has a pair for spud carting

serf · Oct 8, 2023

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spin cycle · Oct 8, 2023

Drillman said:
Time to start a new thread asking which brand of energy drink and sunglasses are best while living the dream carting spuds

Great minds

I was going to ask ..
'what sheep breed to lamb outside at 3000ft whilst avoiding wool'

Wesley · Oct 8, 2023

serf said:
Mullets seem to be entrend at min

Wtf is that all about don't folk look in mirror or do they just go to hair cut shop and say " can you make me look a tw@ please )

Still better than going around with a man bun. Just makes me want to find some scissors!

serf · Oct 8, 2023

L P · Oct 8, 2023

Now I know along with @serf what pit vipers are... naac and nix costings, so difficult to put them to real world use. Combining in Devon or Cornwall with many 5 acre fields and obstacles which could write it off, £54/acre must be a huge risk still, you could not command that price here, not by miles, folk would baulk at £45. Diesel though, I struggle to price it in any more, leave full, come back full

L P · Oct 8, 2023

What happened to the photo of the self entitled lad with 2 bottles of Pommery and 3 candles in his mouth? Deleted because the pr*ck couldn't crack a smile?!

CPF · Oct 8, 2023

L P said:
What happened to the photo of the self entitled lad with 2 bottles of Pommery and 3 candles in his mouth? Deleted because the pr*ck couldn't crack a smile?!

I deleted it, no one else, but me, but I can repost it

jh. · Oct 9, 2023

farenheit said:
Cost of labour/hour: £18 (barely covers it particularly at overtime)
Cost of fuel at say trailer driving (20l/hr): £17
500hour service/£1200 = £2.40
Tyres = £1

So before depreciation and breakdowns you are already at £37.40/hour. So at £50/hour you're perhaps making a tiny profit if its going well. How many people factor in the cost of sorting out the job in the first place, quoting, invoicing, popping in to check on your operator if you are the manager/owner? Cost of insurance? And that doesn't even cover the same costs again on whatever your tractor turns up with - trailer tyres, maintenance, brake checks?

I think £100/hour is more reasonable to cover costs. Not going to happen unfortunately.

I've been thinking for years until farmers/contractors can charge similar to the main dealer for servicing per hour , we are truly undervalued .

Wesley · Oct 9, 2023

jh. said:
I've been thinking for years until farmers/contractors can charge similar to the main dealer for servicing per hour , we are truly undervalued .

Or to look at another way maybe the main dealer prices are too high

lloyd · Oct 9, 2023

If your doing a lot of roadwork then it's
£2hr just for tyres (premium brands).
£12-£14hr driver .
Check your insurance your covered for contracting.£1hr
£1.50hr servicing.
So there is £18.50hr before factoring in the main costs.

DeeGee · Oct 9, 2023

Chae1 said:
Why buy 2?

One for the wife’s birthday present, to go with the ex demo mop?

L P · Oct 9, 2023

kiwi pom said:
That sounds like farmers son contracting logic. Daddy has the farm and pays for the tractor anyway so if I do a bit extra it’s all profit (and I can be a contractor instead of doing the jobs dad wants) fine for what you have in mind as a favour for a neighbour but not great business.
what would you’re driver be doing instead? No harm for a day, bit different for weeks on end.

Went full cycle here off the back of that theory, got up to 2700 acres at one point off the back of what we owned initially, kept building and building off it until we had a modern fleet, got to the point it became a cut throat job contracting and didn't wish to be part of the party, so ditched anything on finance, most of the contract work and now have a super setup for the future and well over geared. It rode a few low points very well and put us in a far better situation than sitting stagnant

fieldfarmer · Oct 10, 2023

Enry said:
So if you pay £5k interest you save £1k tax…..

Na, if you pay £5 k in interest your tax bill will ( presuming you pay tax) be £5 k less. The only interest I know of that is not a deductible business expense is any that HMRC charge you.

Highland Mule · Oct 10, 2023

fieldfarmer said:
Na, if you pay £5 k in interest your tax bill will ( presuming you pay tax) be £5 k less. The only interest I know of that is not a deductible business expense is any that HMRC charge you.

Profit will be £5k less. Tax bill is reduced by whatever rate you pay tax at - hopefully not 100%.

fieldfarmer · Oct 10, 2023

Highland Mule said:
Profit will be £5k less. Tax bill is reduced by whatever rate you pay tax at - hopefully not 100%.

My point is 100 % of that 5k is a deductible business expense.

Highland Mule · Oct 10, 2023

fieldfarmer said:
My point is 100 % of that 5k is a deductible business expense.

Yep, but that doesn’t translate to 100% of it coming off your tax bill. £5k in interest will save somewhere between £1k and £2k in tax, for a 20% -40% taxpayer.

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100% I’ve had enough of farming!

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