Well done AHDB

simon w · Dec 21, 2023

ollie989898 said:
I hope BFU has 10,000 members shortly and can ballot them to get rid of ADHB as it would surely easily have all the required numbers.

The votes to end the AHDB pots and hort sectors were successful because the TFF was used to rally support. I'm sure it could be equally successful for other sectors if the numbers were known. Good to see the new GB potatoes doing what their industry expects. Perhaps GB cereals or beef ect could make a better platform to promote and represent British farming than AHDB.

simon w · Dec 21, 2023

Even the name AHDB sounds very drab and dowdy so that's what they are, It doesn't even represent what they are supposed to be doing. Let's have a farmer run group to represent GB farmers.

Grass And Grain · Dec 21, 2023

Humble Village Farmer said:
The real question is what are farmers getting for their £60 million a year?

Top 5 people account for over £0.5m in wages. Chairman £55k for 104 days. That's nearly 1% used up.

Tbh I don't begrudge decent wages if they're doing a good job, although those wages do seem quite generous.

If AHDB are doing a decent job, then profitable farmers won't bother with SFI, and as a result AHDB levy receipts will remain high.

I wonder if this proposed levy increase is because AHDB realise they haven't managed to keep agricultural profitability competitive against SFI, and hence output and AHDB revenue will fall, so therefore they need a levy increase to keep their jobs.

It's ironic really. The less successful AHDB are at keeping our profitability decent and the greater their failures, the more we have to pay.

ollie989898 · Dec 21, 2023

DrWazzock · Dec 21, 2023

They’ve absolutely failed to address the fact that we are forced to produce to higher standards than imports but get no premium or direct compensatory production sub to make up for the higher costs those higher standards force upon us.
That’s a major failure in my view. So I’m afraid they’ve lost my support.
And to heap yet more upon us with the GFC while unassured imports are waived through really takes the biscuit.
Yes, enough is enough. Why should we as producers continue to tolerate that kind of negative discrimination while they just sit back and raise their levies? No way.

JP1 · Dec 22, 2023

Milk levy up 33% to 0.08p / l

Pigs now £1.02 per pig

These are big numbers

Grass And Grain · Dec 22, 2023

JP1 said:
Milk levy up 33% to 0.08p / l

Pigs now £1.02 per pig

These are big numbers

They've increased producer AND processor levies by same percentage.

This means they gap has widened. Producers now paying proportionately more than they were.

Humble Village Farmer · Dec 22, 2023

AHDB and the corporate food system are in direct competition with SFI and other land uses like solar panels. Farming isn't compulsory.

MrNoo · Dec 22, 2023

Humble Village Farmer said:
AHDB and the corporate food system are in direct competition with SFI and other land uses like solar panels. Farming isn't compulsory.

Indeed, I won't be paying the parasites any more, just had my CS application accepted, so will be buying a big topper and the remaining time will be spent harassing these parasites at every opportunity

Andy Nash · Dec 22, 2023

MrNoo said:
Indeed, I won't be paying the parasites any more, just had my CS application accepted, so will be buying a big topper and the remaining time will be spent harassing these parasites at every opportunity

BFU is always looking for people with time on their hands..

SilliamWhale · Dec 22, 2023

yellowbelly said:
It wouldn't surprise me at all.

IMHO, the CEO left the top job for a reason.

We deserve to know don't we?

Will Jackson can't even bring himself to admit he was at the GFC meeting.

They all want more money to tell us cut costs or shrink our industry.

Humble Village Farmer · Dec 22, 2023

Grass And Grain said:
They've increased producer AND processor levies by same percentage.

This means they gap has widened. Producers now paying proportionately more than they were.

No no no. We're still paying the same share but of a bigger pie.

Grass And Grain · Dec 22, 2023

Humble Village Farmer said:
No no no. We're still paying the same share but of a bigger pie.

Actually, yes, sorry, you're right, share is similar, BUT I suppose the gap has widened.

Take say £0.90 producer levy and £0.10 processor. We were paying £0.80 more than the processors.

Increase both by 33%...
£0.9, now increases to £1.20
£0.10 now increases to £0.13

After the increase we'd be paying £1.07 more than the processor.

onesiedale · Dec 22, 2023

Going right back to the OP.
AHDB have openly acknowledged their mistakes over GFC, they have also dipped their toe in at engaging on here... thanks @Levy Believer
however, I do believe that the thread has focussed on the poor performing aspects of AHDB and it is clear to see where they are.

As a livestock and dairy levy payer I do think that there is some terrific technical information and knowledge exchange work being done by the people on the ground and at farm level.

The huge let down is from the senior management team in their in-ability to react to farmers concerns about;
Communications
Public Relations
Marketing
Farm Assurance
Consumer facing education/ knowledge exchange.

These areas are all strategic and AHDB are doing the industry a dis-service because senior management are not stepping up to their duties.
Meanwhile, the KE staff on the ground are taking all the stick from levy payers.

Somehow, AHDB needs re-structuring , but the dead wood needs cutting out from the top of the tree first.

Humble Village Farmer · Dec 22, 2023

MrNoo said:
Indeed, I won't be paying the parasites any more, just had my CS application accepted, so will be buying a big topper and the remaining time will be spent harassing these parasites at every opportunity

Me too. I've just accepted my SFI offer on just over one third of the farm.

Easy money. No risk and no dead tractor.

Old apprentice · Dec 22, 2023

Humble Village Farmer said:
Me too. I've just accepted my SFI offer on just over one third of the farm.

Easy money. No risk and no dead tractor.

I presume none of your land is in NE, re wilding map which is on defra, web site

Humble Village Farmer · Dec 22, 2023

Old apprentice said:
I presume none of your land is in NE, re wilding map which is on defra, web site

Don't know haven't seen that.

How would I know?

Old apprentice · Dec 22, 2023

I think the link is on the gentleman's thread from Devon the one that has been battling with NE, in court for a few years is it ajcc,?
I looked on it and a substantial part of my best land is in it.!!

ajd132 · Dec 22, 2023

Old apprentice said:
I think the link is on the gentleman's thread from Devon the one that has been battling with NE, in court for a few years is it ajcc,?
I looked on it and a substantial part of my best land is in it.!!

Can you share a link please

Hay Maker · Dec 22, 2023

Old apprentice said:
I presume none of your land is in NE, re wilding map which is on defra, web site

Please don't start on this rewilding crap as there is enough to sorting out RT & AHDB.

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