At least she admits her view on RT has splintered the sectorWell feel free to add your comments to the parting of Battersby, I have.
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At least she admits her view on RT has splintered the sectorWell feel free to add your comments to the parting of Battersby, I have.
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Minette Batters has not addressed the corrupt illegal activity of AIC. She has not addressed the presumably illegal activity of mixing non farm assured imported produce with UK farm assured produce and selling it under the RT label as farm assured. She has not addressed farmers need to be on a economic level playing field with imported produce that is produced to a lower and cheaper standard that uses pesticides banned under UK law and don't have costly farm assurance schemes etc. and therefore UK farmers should not be coerced into any costly farm assurance scheme and instead be allowed to sell on the free market without being in any scheme. She has not addressed the elites lies about net zero and livestock methane emissions designed to destroy farming. Batters has done a disservice as to what women can achieve probably because she has been getting lucrative backhanders from elsewhere instead of supporting farming.See another review announced this time in conjunction with their mates the ADHB
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Well feel free to add your comments to the parting of Battersby, I have.
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Yes and AIC saying imported produce same legal standards as UK produce when imports are using banned pesticides. I suspect AIC and Batters and co are giving out disinformation rather than misinformation!
I got the "BBB" treatment some time ago, not the Farmers led Political Party in the Netherlands but "Blocked By Batters" for having the audacity to question Red Tractor
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You are perfectly correct, we will have a uphill struggle to get all of this mess sorted out as I think the new review has been designed to advoid most of these issues.Minette Batters has not addressed the corrupt illegal activity of AIC. She has not addressed the presumably illegal activity of mixing non farm assured imported produce with UK farm assured produce and selling it under the RT label as farm assured. She has not addressed farmers need to be on a economic level playing field with imported produce that uses pesticides band in the UK and don't have costly farm assurance schemes etc. and therefore UK farmers should not be coerced into any costly farm assurance scheme and instead be allowed to sell on the free market. She has not addressed the elites lies about net zero and livestock methane emissions designed to destroy farming. Batters has done a disservice as to what women can achieve probably because she has been getting lucrative backhanders from elsewhere instead of supporting farming.
AIC might have messed up here.If there was no RT they would get it from me anyway.
Note I didn’t say my contract said RT, it says assured. If there was another assurance body I would be free to prove my compliance that way.
Unfortunately there is no other option other that RT at the moment
Looks like NFU are working for someone else like BRC, not farmers. Unless there is change from NFU then the stage is set for BFU. Local MPs next.You are perfectly correct, we will have a uphill struggle to get all of this mess sorted out as I think the new review has been designed to advoid most of these issues.
AIC might have messed up here.
(I know maybe not relevant to your seed. Well maybe it is), but AIC UFAS mills say RT/SQC/N I Scheme. However, AIC Contract used by merchants simply says must be farm assured. We could start a new assurance scheme, then sell to a merchant and be quite within their rules. No doubt they'd get wise to it quite quickly.
Guess we need to wait for assurance reviews to be completed, but starting a new scheme isn't out of the question. Shouldn't be necessary for grain, but still doesn't mean to say mills will play ball.
We don't need another assurance scheme. We already have one in the form of Food Standards Scotland. We was inspected by them 12 months ago just 2 weeks after our sqc inspection and passed with flying colours. They wanted a look around and checked a minimal amount of paperwork. It took half an hour to do and cost me nothing. They will next visit in 5yrs time. Had SQC/QMS inspection again yesterday, took 2.5 hours! If FSS say we're up to the required standard being the government department, that should be better than any red tractor/ SQC box ticking scheme. A certificate off them should be all we need to prove we are assured to the required standard.AIC might have messed up here.
(I know maybe not relevant to your seed. Well maybe it is), but AIC UFAS mills say RT/SQC/N I Scheme. However, AIC Contract used by merchants simply says must be farm assured. We could start a new assurance scheme, then sell to a merchant and be quite within their rules. No doubt they'd get wise to it quite quickly.
Guess we need to wait for assurance reviews to be completed, but starting a new scheme isn't out of the question. Shouldn't be necessary for grain, but still doesn't mean to say mills will play ball.
So did I
I got the "BBB" treatment some time ago, not the Farmers led Political Party in the Netherlands but "Blocked By Batters" for having the audacity to question Red Tractor
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I have told neighbouring farmers that RT and the NFU are no good to us anymore and they just shrug their shoulders and carry on regardless. They just want to do their own thing and keep their heads down . It is sad that business men cannot see what is potentially round the corner. They will be the first to moan when it all goes pearshaped.if you go on tff you assume everyone knows what is going on, but I've spoken to 4 or 5 farmers recently who had no clue, all NFU members as well.
I can't see a mass walk out working until enough people know, how you get the message out there I don't know as so many are bogged down in there every day work.
I fully agree, Food Standards farm inspections are all we need, and are trusted by consumers, just like we all trust 1-5 Food Hygiene Ratings in shop windows.We don't need another assurance scheme. We already have one in the form of Food Standards Scotland. We was inspected by them 12 months ago just 2 weeks after our sqc inspection and passed with flying colours. They wanted a look around and checked a minimal amount of paperwork. It took half an hour to do and cost me nothing. They will next visit in 5yrs time. Had SQC/QMS inspection again yesterday, took 2.5 hours! If FSS say we're up to the required standard being the government department, that should be better than any red tractor/ SQC box ticking scheme. A certificate off them should be all we need to prove we are assured to the required standard.
Read my post above! There is a scheme. It is the Food Standards Agency. We don't need anything else. They check we are doing everything legally. Just as they do with cafes and suchlike. There's no such thing as red cafe to allow them to trade.It will not be possible to go forward with no scheme at all ,to endorse the safety of the food we produce in this country. It would be foolish to withdraw from the current schemes and leave a vacuum for the food industry to fill. They will keep chipping away at us if we have no industry standards. Farmers must have their own scheme in place that fits their needs and also fits national regulations.
Division will play right into the hands of the food industry and we will have a much worse situation than we have currently with red tractor.
We could have a rating system too. 1 could demand a premium!! Good luck with getting the AIC to accept FS. there can be no reason not to.I fully agree, Food Standards farm inspections are all we need, and are trusted by consumers, just like we all trust 1-5 Food Hygiene Ratings in shop windows.
I'm trying to get FS inspection past AIC at the moment. I imagine they'll say "no", but they are really going to struggle to justify their stance.
Farms produce food that the population consumes. Processors and retailers simply add value. Without farm produce they would have to use non-FA imported produce.I fully agree, Food Standards farm inspections are all we need, and are trusted by consumers, just like we all trust 1-5 Food Hygiene Ratings in shop windows.
I'm trying to get FS inspection past AIC at the moment. I imagine they'll say "no", but they are really going to struggle to justify their stance.
Was right with you till the last bit, have you any evidence of that ?Minette Batters has not addressed the corrupt illegal activity of AIC. She has not addressed the presumably illegal activity of mixing non farm assured imported produce with UK farm assured produce and selling it under the RT label as farm assured. She has not addressed farmers need to be on a economic level playing field with imported produce that is produced to a lower and cheaper standard that uses pesticides banned under UK law and don't have costly farm assurance schemes etc. and therefore UK farmers should not be coerced into any costly farm assurance scheme and instead be allowed to sell on the free market without being in any scheme. She has not addressed the elites lies about net zero and livestock methane emissions designed to destroy farming. Batters has done a disservice as to what women can achieve probably because she has been getting lucrative backhanders from elsewhere instead of supporting farming.
That is called back tracking after she went way too far on X the other night!At least she admits her view on RT has splintered the sector