Red tractor stakeholder survey on governance

[milkloss]

That's a consequence of assurance. not a reason for it.

I agree. It would depend how you ask the question and how you want to hear the answer. That’s where the rt review is going to work the results.

 

[Bury the Trash]

They Got to keep paying the protection racket or their wallet we get beat up.

New toy day

Is the senior scraper tractor operative now being made redundant?:wideyed: Unplugged and battery running down

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Thats what youm up aginst mr

 

[ajd132]

The true reason Red tractor was started up was by/ for a certain type of farmer for control , in order to take over others farms and get bigger like their heads.

This is just chippy bulls**t. Grow up.

 

[Rnold]

if you go on tff you assume everyone knows what is going on, but I've spoken to 4 or 5 farmers recently who had no clue, all NFU members as well.
I can't see a mass walk out working until enough people know, how you get the message out there I don't know as so many are bogged down in there every day work.

I agree with you completely. I've been in a room with 40 farmers recently and this very much the case. Either it's blissful ignorance, don't understand or can't be bothered with it all.

If we had a mass walk out, we must have something else in place to walk into of our making. Unity is power.

 

[wanton dwarf]

I agree with you completely. I've been in a room with 40 farmers recently and this very much the case. Either it's blissful ignorance, don't understand or can't be bothered with it all.

If we had a mass walk out, we must have something else in place to walk into of our making. Unity is power.

There is nothing to walk into unfortunately

We're our own worst enemy by failing to unite & co-operate

Times past we've been burnt as well - but unless we do join together & keep how our business operates away from NFU, BRC, AIC, Mills etc - we'll be picked off individually

Power in numbers & we have common enemies

 

[Bury the Trash]

This is just chippy bulls**t. Grow up.

Ok then, in that you are so grown up and clever, tell us honestly what the actual reason is that arable farmers don't leave it en masse ?

 

[jonnieboy]

Ok then, in that you are so grown up and clever, tell us honestly what the actual reason is that arable farmers don't leave it en masse ?

Half a million of stock sat in a store with no market
Forward sales contracts unfulfilled
Want to try explaining that to a board of non farming directors
We have to join to trade

 

[Bury the Trash]

 

[B'o'B]

Seed contract say must be assured.
90% of crops I have in the ground are being grown on a seed contract. I can’t realistically leave until these contracts expire.

 

[Bury the Trash]

anyway bull sh!t is relative i find this

Grenadier at "overs"

First few delivered now and speculators are selling for over list already I see ...

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type of thread complete bull sh!t.

 

[Henarar]

Seed contract say must be assured.
90% of crops I have in the ground are being grown on a seed contract. I can’t realistically leave until these contracts expire.

where would they get it from if there was no RT ?

 

[ajd132]

Ok then, in that you are so grown up and clever, tell us honestly what the actual reason is that arable farmers don't leave it en masse ?

Because no one has organised a walk out.
And the fact it is a license to trade.

 

[Bury the Trash]

my fully assured feed ticket at least the barley will be red tractor certified

its a funny old World that's for sure

 

[MrNoo]

Well feel free to add your comments to the parting of Battersby, I have.

 

[B'o'B]

where would they get it from if there was no RT ?

If there was no RT they would get it from me anyway.
Note I didn’t say my contract said RT, it says assured. If there was another assurance body I would be free to prove my compliance that way.
Unfortunately there is no other option other that RT at the moment

 

[stroller]

Ok then, in that you are so grown up and clever, tell us honestly what the actual reason is that arable farmers don't leave it en masse ?

I can't sell any wheat osr or beans without paying into the red craptor protection racket, I used to be able to shift a couple of loads but the only wheat I can now sell with out the red craptor is about 3t to the shoot, I ask every merchant if they will take non assured but they say no.

 

[tullah]

Because no one has organised a walk out.
And the fact it is a license to trade.

French would walk out on this one. Why do we have to be different?
when The BFU has sufficient numbers it will all fall into place.

 

[Bury the Trash]

I can't sell any wheat osr or beans without paying into the red craptor protection racket, I used to be able to shift a couple of loads but the only wheat I can now sell with out the red craptor is about 3t to the shoot, I ask every merchant if they will take non assured but they say no.

and yet as we all know and seen plainly in my feed ticket above, apart from the Barley and wheat , all the rest them millers /merchants might sell neednt be red tractor /combinable crops in this country certified.

and the gm bits adds yet another level of sillyness.

 

[spin cycle]

Well feel free to add your comments to the parting of Battersby, I have.
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on her 'watch'

 

[texelburger]

my fully assured feed ticket at least the barley will be red tractor certified

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its a funny old World that's for sure

How are we allowed to buy cattle and sheep nuts with this composition of imported non assured ingredients for our RT livestock?
We have to be RT assured to send wheat/barley/oats etc into feed mills where it is mixed with ingredients from all over the World that is not assured.Our non assured crops, grown under UK law and legislation, are not accepted into the same mills.The NFU,AHDB and RT find this crazy inequality totally acceptable. It beggars belief.