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- somerset
l think farm assurance is a good thing.
but RT have taken it to unnecessary levels, needs some common sense applied.
Red tractor spot inspection
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but RT have taken it to unnecessary levels, needs some common sense applied.
kiwi pom
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Possibly but I like to try and get things right, not skim over something and fly into a rage when I see a story that allows me to stick the boot into something I don't agree with.
Which is what Clive did.
Why is it a good thing were you doing things you should not do before rt, came in?
kiwi pom
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I think it is too, but it needs to be useful and fit customer requirements (which is why it's there in the first place) instead of making up more rules for the sake of it, which is what RT are doing.
In this case perfectly reasonable to ask how stock are being looked after if the owner operator has told them he's stepped away for a while.
Obviously not in this case but I bet they hear all kinds of excuses as to why a spot inspection can't happen.
All imported food into UK is not rt, or equivalent people do not diferenciate it is just a facade.
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- somerset
there's plenty out there, which are a bit iffy on welfare.
assurance at least puts some sort of base into it. And when we had a 'vegan visit', l will admit to being very grateful to RT, they were out within 24 hrs, and completely exonerated us, and supported us v tabloid paper.
so l think if there is a base line, certificated, one can say animal welfare meets the 'standard'. Not at all sure where we would have ended up, without their support, basically we would have been hung drawn and quartered, no way we could have countered their claims, by ourselves.
at the same time, RT seems to get more onerous every year, way more than animal welfare.
You could call your vet to do that not rt, your vet can also give advice.
ollie989898
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I think in the circumstances the OP was well within his rights to tell them where to go- they have no authority and certainly are in no position to ask who will be looking after their farm- it's not their business and the bulk of such folk are not qualified either. He would be well within his rights to tell them that if trading standards have any concerns he will respond to them and put the phone down.
RT have no official powers or role. They do not enforce the law. The OP is likely farming already with regard to the law and statutory obligations placed on his business by regulations.
ollie989898
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I disagree. A farm being RT or not gives zero assurances on animal welfare/animal health/disease control or environmental protections. Any farm can be tidied up for a day.
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Red Tractor didn’t even come look at my actual stock - you know the bit I’m most proud of …..
kiwi pom
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He's signed up to RT so he has agreed to certain things.
No one suggested they have any legal powers.
Checking on the welfare of cattle in the owner's absence (remember they only asked him to respond by phone) is perfectly reasonable and the responsible thing to do.
Access for the spot check could easily be granted by whoever is on farm doing the work.
Rt, should just give it by end of.
kiwi pom
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Rt, in this situation should forget the inspection at the moment and forget it until it is more convenient time.
Happy at it
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- NI
Would the perfectly reasonable and responsible thing to do, not be to appreciate that their presence on farm would be the last of the ops concerns and cause unnecessary stress and hassle, and back to f**k out of it.
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
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Your there, we re here, and they RT personel have evolved into as said little hitlers
You got traffic warden with all that space over there, well they RT dont listen to reason and revel in the power they have over us, they are usually failed farmers if i may put it that way
kiwi pom
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Absolutely, as I said in my first post on the subject, it should have been postponed for a week.
Perfectly reasonable to ask the question, who's looking after the stock though. Perhaps also reasonable to suppose whoever is looking after the farm could give access to the spot check but again, I'd have postponed that for a week.
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yes, but some of your cattle are rare breeds, with bloody great long horns................... are you really surprised they don't want to get to close ............
few years back, had a problem with an early morning walker, leaving gates open, got totally peed off with that, bought some l/horn cattle, it ceased to be a problem.
dived head first over a hedge once, mate asked me to check his highlands, while away for a couple of days, one calved, so walked up to check it, big mistake !!