Welsh Sustainable Farming Scheme AND Protests

Still Farming · Feb 23, 2024

Gareth Wyn Jones

We are looking for 5500 CLEAN wellingtons to take down to Cardiff on the first week of March. If you can help please drop them at any @WynnstayAgri , CCF or @NFUCymru offices all over Wales. Please...

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V8druid · Feb 23, 2024

Bald Rick said:
Need to tack on the 170kg NVZ limit too

and the other 10% for 'pretty flower' meadows / wasted land

V8druid · Feb 23, 2024

Charles. said:
15 minute city is a fact, check out Oxford. The residents say it's a loss of freedom and increases pollution. When you investigate WEF,WHO,EU I began to realise this lot are wanting to govern countries instead of the countries own governments. There are scientists saying net zero is false while other scientists say it's true. I have concluded net zero is a lie, humans are not responsible for climate change. In fact some scientists say carbon dioxide is a result of changing temperatures, not the cause of changing temperatures. Carbon dioxide is good for trees and plants.

absolutely .... yet another way to tax everyone out of existence .... no CO2 .. no plant life .. CO2 is at it's lowest levels in millenia .... we are currently coming out of a mini ice age still - that's why it's warming up - scientific fact !!

"WEF,WHO,EU .. are wanting to govern countries instead of the countries own governments" absolutely bang on - they have had 'sleepers' in place, some for decades, ..... ppl need to realise what these non elected megalomaniacs are about - world power/domination and absolute control

V8druid · Feb 23, 2024

Llanman said:
Perhaps its already been said by someone but together with TB NVZs and the data gathered from the universal actions this SFS is/could be a big step towards state control of Welsh agriculture maybe not all out nationalisation but it could soon get to the point of not being able to level a mole hill without some official permission almost at that point already anyway and the ~~10%~~ 20%trees/habitat is just a smoke screen to distract from their real ambition.
Hell I hope I'm not starting some kind of conspiracy theory perhaps calving a cow at daft o'clock this morning has addled my brain, now need to go make a phone call to book my seat on the bus for Wednesday.

10% each

lloyd · Feb 23, 2024

Llanman said:
Perhaps its already been said by someone but together with TB NVZs and the data gathered from the universal actions this SFS is/could be a big step towards state control of Welsh agriculture maybe not all out nationalisation but it could soon get to the point of not being able to level a mole hill without some official permission almost at that point already anyway and the 10% trees/habitat is just a smoke screen to distract from their real ambition.
Hell I hope I'm not starting some kind of conspiracy theory perhaps calving a cow at daft o'clock this morning has addled my brain, now need to go make a phone call to book my seat on the bus for Wednesday.

Large parts of England are already in NVZ's .Take out the 10% trees and the 10% habitat along with lack
of dealing with tb and some of the rest is just catch up.

V8druid · Feb 23, 2024

farmerm said:
If I look at the window there is nothing to convince me the earth is round, it is beyond my perception yet I know the earth is round and has been proven to be by many folk smarter than I. Vast numbers of scientists seem to agree with CO2 being a factor in climate change, very few present credible alternative views. China is gearing up for war, climate change is not the priority when you have plans to drastically reshape the worlds population....

NO ---
Vast numbers of WEF/WHO employed scientists preach this gospel ... there are a great many more not on the payroll that completely disagree and can evidence their conclusions ... unlike the WEF/WHO bunch who merely hypothesise their supposed findings

farmerm · Feb 23, 2024

V8druid said:
NO ---
Vast numbers of WEF/WHO employed scientists preach this gospel ... there are a great many more not on the payroll that completely disagree and can evidence their conclusions ... unlike the WEF/WHO bunch who merely hypothesise their supposed findings

So you are saying WEF/WHO employee thousands of scientists who all fake the science and lie for money? Really

Cotlandfarmer · Feb 23, 2024

lloyd said:
Large parts of England are already in NVZ's .Take out the 10% trees and the 10% habitat along with lack
of dealing with tb and some of the rest is just catch up.

English NVZs have a stocking rate of 250kg/ha of nitrogen, unlike here where it's 170kg/ha, quite a difference.

hendrebc · Feb 23, 2024

lloyd said:
Large parts of England are already in NVZ's .Take out the 10% trees and the 10% habitat along with lack
of dealing with tb and some of the rest is just catch up.

But all of England isn't and it shouldn't be. The welsh limit will be 1/3 lower than the English limit and there is no reason for it other than the labour party said so.
And the data capture is so far reaching they want to know how many lame stock you have at any one time ffs.

slackjawedyokel · Feb 23, 2024

hendrebc said:
But all of England isn't and it shouldn't be. The welsh limit will be 1/3 lower than the English limit and there is no reason for it other than the labour party said so.
And the data capture is so far reaching they want to know how many lame stock you have at any one time ffs.

Do you have to keep it constant?

“Oh no, there’s no lame sheep about- must get on and hobble some this afternoon in case we get an inspection”

Pistonbroke · Feb 23, 2024

britishblue said:
Sad to see G W Jones video tonight saying he will be taking a lower profile tonight because of the death threats to him and his family! Hope the police do something about it!

And the news now shows him in his pink scarf ,first one meeting Sunak at the door in llandudno. Threats aren't that worrying to him.

Bald Rick · Feb 23, 2024

Fair play to GWJ for engaging with Sunak in a coherent and positive way (not sure about the pink scarf/cravat thing though)
Pity it's meaningless in Markist (see what i did there?) Wales

V8druid · Feb 23, 2024

Bald Rick said:
And another thing that came up last night ......

Welsh Government through the NRW (ex Forestry Commission) already own 126,000ha of woodland or 41% of all Welsh woods (mainly conifers at a ratio of 8:1) but a recent survey (2019) by the Royal Forestry Society said that only 53,000ha was being actively managed and the rest where in poor condition

Plus the Mbale tree project in Uganda already mentioned earlier in the thread.

Methinks Drakey needs a fast growing bamboo whip shoved up his posterior

clear felling everything in sight around here currently .... probably lining up for grant funded re-planting soon

Still Farming · Feb 23, 2024

hendrebc · Feb 23, 2024

slackjawedyokel said:
Do you have to keep it constant?

“Oh no, there’s no lame sheep about- must get on and hobble some this afternoon in case we get an inspection”

I can't remember now. I'm sure there was going to be an online portal for such things so I suspect you'd need to keep it fairly near.
Some were hoping it would be a paper exercise you could do the night before an inspection but if its an online portal they could easily check what you updated and when

V8druid · Feb 23, 2024

farmerm said:
So you are saying WEF/WHO employee thousands of scientists who all fake the science and lie for money? Really

not in their thousands, but they certainly create the desired narrative .... where else do you think this sh1t comes from??

..... there are plenty of reputable scientists out there that call this out as utter bollaux ... but who never get 'a voice' as all MSM is controlled in what they spout ... one has to look further afield to get a true picture

f'rinstance ... has taken the MSM weeks to actually 'mention' the additional 10% requirement for habitat --- until very recently it has only ever mentioned the 10% for trees ... has only changed in the last week or two

and on a wider spectrum ..... how much MSM coverage have the Eu issues/protests gotten until very recently ... sweet FA

QED

Bald Rick · Feb 23, 2024

WTF ... starring our Fastrac in Llandudno (for sale BTW. One careful demo)

Never a lender be ..

lloyd · Feb 23, 2024

farmerm said:
So you are saying WEF/WHO employee thousands of scientists who all fake the science and lie for money? Really

Proved science and scaremongering are two different things .
Weren't we all supposed to be dead by now from eating beef.

Bald Rick · Feb 23, 2024

Rishi Sunak backs protesting farmers at Welsh Conservative conference

The prime minister tells farmers "we've got your back" at the Welsh Conservative conference.

www.bbc.co.uk

In excellent condition too. Sound steps from which a politician can rant. No reasonable offer refused

john 650 · Feb 23, 2024

V8druid said:
f'rinstance ... has taken the MSM weeks to actually 'mention' the additional 10% requirement for habitat --- until very recently it has only ever mentioned the 10% for trees ... has only changed in the last week or two
and on a wider spectrum ..... how much MSM coverage have the Eu issues/protests gotten until very recently ... sweet FA
QED

To be fair to the media, it's only the last couple of weeks that farmers have woken up to the issues presented by the proposals in the main- NFU Cymru I know have been telling for a long time that there's a shitshow on the horizon- but it's taken European/global farmers protesting to give it a kick start here.

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