- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Channel 4 now
- Thread starter Gedd
- Start date
- Location
- Northumberlandia
I do agree with what your saying on this
Just saying too a pal last night i bet the rent is way more than what iam on in AHA terms
and you might have 10years & be shown the door or the gate then after you really are at there mercy.
I know Jamie personally but he has kept this all very quiet. better not ask how its going i see there is 8 episodes?
oh heck....
Its a bare bones stock farm & more sheep than cattle id say.
Poss only 35miles from me here but worlds apart in land types.
- Location
- Northumberland
I suspect the shiney kit,sheep and horses were brought in for the filming.
Probably easier to be a NT tenant on that sort of farm than a highly productive dairy or arable farm.
The detailed letting details are still on line.
Search for Gallows hill farm. Wallington
Probably easier to be a NT tenant on that sort of farm than a highly productive dairy or arable farm.
The detailed letting details are still on line.
Search for Gallows hill farm. Wallington
Princess Pooper
Member
- Location
- East Mids
Its a tenancy. They have to put a business plan forward, more info will come out as the series progresses. NT can quiz them on their ideas and would also make clear if there was something specific they want them to do re: environmental stuff. SFI, BPS etc situation will have been made clear to tenands on asking the questions but with NT, would normally have go to the tenant.
The sheep and cattle belonged to the next door farmer and were being lent for the purposes of this exercise (they stated that in the programme). As the candidates hadn't worked with these sheep before you can't blame them for playing it safe with the bales, especially as there was some dodgy fencing in that area.
I would assume the kit was either hired from a local dealer or farmer for this exercise too.
The one couple has sold their house as they have learned from applying for previous tenancies that they need working capital to stock a farm. The vet has a smallholding at present so has some stock too.
I actually think it's an interesting approach to selecting tenants, having been through applying for a tenancy myself. There are some people who can talk the talk or get an agent to do a business plan for them but can't cope practically. This is giving the NT agents a chance to see whether the tenants can actually farm.
Other than the wildlife couple I would say they all have a realistic idea of what they are letting themselves in for.
NT also do things a bit differently at times - one of my first jobs as an ADAS consultant was for a youngster applying for a NT share farm set up, as they had longhorn cattle on the 'tenanted' farm which was next to a period house and one of the conditions of the new share farmer was that he had to buy half the value of the herd and continue it. When he finished his 10 years, he had half the value back.
- Location
- East Sussex
This makes it sound very rosy and I hope for the successful tenant that it is.
My experience of the management of NT farms is that they are terrible to deal with. I have not met a happy NT tenant in this area yet.
The land has been "rewilded" or told to reduce stock levels to make the farms unviable. The buildings have been sold off and the houses sold or let.
The NT Agent Giles said that the land needs to be farmed for the benefit of the wildlife, a pity the same attitude doesn't exist around here!
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Agreed
The tenants won't get the shiny tractors or livestock handling gear
On one of the trailers showed one of the candidates drenching cattle.
They're watching and observing ; skills, aptitude, opportunities
It will be fascinating who they award the place to
Some of the problem is the AHA system is broken with rents being almost negligible against the free market for just the house let alone the land. This has lead to massive under investment by the LL because they have no funds to invest. . Many Properties would not be able to be legally Let due to having no heating, insulation, sewage system etc etc. What started off with great intentions, and was needed, has failed to keep up with modern day realities. It might change in the autumn. In the short term there is no business plan that works in 10 years.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
One of our neighbours is very high up in NT, she was telling me last week that the farms are their highest contributor to carbon emissions, couldn’t really work that one myself.
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Best you show her the difference between GWP100 and GWP100*
- Location
- Bedfordshire
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
She should be taught the difference between affordable quality food or starvation , farm bashing with a full stomach hmmm arseholes !I don’t think she’d take my input on it
glasshouse
Member
- Location
- lothians
Nonsense
Aha system should be further strengthened and tenants given the option to buy.
A ten year tenancy is a waste of life.
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Why whats a foot ?
Change of government? Although I do not think the offer to buy will be extended to NT tenants due to Crown, Church and Duchy being in similar situations. However, the principal of rolling the sale price of development land back into farm land tax free must be up for review. This is probably the only outside influence keeping land prices at the levels they are today. Couple that with the massive need to invest in sewage, water, hospital, GP surgeries that new developments seem to avoid paying for and of course social housing the hoop hole seems a done deal. No one apart from the beneficiary would be adversely effected.
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Can they change AHA tenancy’s ? I doubt it
- Location
- Bedfordshire
She was telling me that a refurb of one of the houses was going to cost £100m, how much carbon is in all of that? I‘d of thought their farms would all be extensive anyway.
glasshouse
Member
- Location
- lothians
They are full of horseshit
Farms are not net emitters, no one counts the carbon absorbed by grass and graincrops
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Its bloody sickening all this carbon ball cocks , ive had enough of it .
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
But as @S J H said she’s unlikely to get the nuance between GWP100 and GWP100*