Fitting in-line slug pelleter on 6m 750a

Tractor Boy

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The other thing I'd like to be able to do is to be able to sow rape / beans with just the back set of coulters. I know there have been threads on this but I can't seem to find them. Anyone remember the thread title?

@Bob lincs @Clive
Think you'll have to re pipe the drill. I had the BB demo 6m here last autumn and ran the rear part of the hopper out before the front. It left a 3m miss so one hopper does left one right rather than alternate coulters.
 
its pretty easy - just move the pipes about on the heads and extended a couple - definitely worth doing, don't know why they don't come from factory plumbed that way

Did you put ISO blockage sensors on? Worth it or not? Simon said he doesn't often get blockages. Just thinking if we literally take seed out of the barn that it might be something to think about.
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
It would be a lot easier just to blank off either the front or rear rows. At least you'd still be able to shut off half the width if you needed to.

why would anyone need a half width these days ?

with a 6m drill plumbing front back not only gives the option of wide row when you want to but with a simple bit of ply dividing the hopper there is the ability to drill companion crops or place fert / lime between wide rows or standard standard rows if your using a stocks etc for seed into the venturi

mod that costs about £50 in extra pipe and takes 2 hrs
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
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Lichfield
Did you put ISO blockage sensors on? Worth it or not? Simon said he doesn't often get blockages. Just thinking if we literally take seed out of the barn that it might be something to think about.

I planned to but we haven't yet, quote was near 5k but I was waiting for someone to get back to me with a lot cheaper deal on a development product - Simon is right in that its rare you get a blocked coulter with these drills so i wouldn't bother really
 
why would anyone need a half width these days ?

with a 6m drill plumbing font back not only give the option of wide row when you want to but with a simple bit of ply dividing the hopper there is the ability to drill companion crops or place fert / lime between wide rows or standard standard rows if your using a stocks etc for seed into the venturi

mod that costs about £50 in extra pipe and takes 2 hrs

If you're drilling beans on wide rows, is there a divide in the tank that means one half of the tank wouldn't empty properly? Obviously for OSR it's not an issue but for beans at 400 kg/ha it might be.

@ajd132 might be getting a 12m hoe. Quite keen on the idea of hoeing between spring beans and possibly even winter cereals drilled on wide row spacing.
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
If you're drilling beans on wide rows, is there a divide in the tank that means one half of the tank wouldn't empty properly?

there is no divide as standard but we have made one for when we want to split the hopper

have you got a hopper extension planned ? standard hopper is pathetic for a 6m drill and extending it dramatically increases output
 
there is no divide as standard but we have made one for when we want to split the hopper

have you got a hopper extension planned ? standard hopper is pathetic for a 6m drill and extending it dramatically increases output

Simon said it would take 1.5t of wheat IIRC. Our 8m drill only has a 1t hopper and we get on fine with that. With no-till should be able to bring the seed to the drill rather than the other way round too. I'm generally looking to keep the drill as light as possible because we will be going onto softer ploughed ground some of the time.
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Simon said it would take 1.5t of wheat IIRC. Our 8m drill only has a 1t hopper and we get on fine with that. With no-till should be able to bring the seed to the drill rather than the other way round too. I'm generally looking to keep the drill as light as possible because we will be going onto softer ploughed ground some of the time.

don't think you would get 1.5t in a standard hopper, our has a big extension and still only fits just over 2t

the extension means you can fill 2bags without having to be 100% empty - in bigger fields being empty at the wrong end off the field cost a lot of time and creates a lot of unneeded driving about on soil

its makes a lot of difference to how much we get done in a day, if i could choose just 1 750a mod that would be it, 4m was even worse

I have even had JD dealers asking me to make and sell them extensions !
 
don't think you would get 1.5t in a standard hopper, our has a big extension and still only fits just over 2t

the extension means you can fill 2bags without having to be 100% empty - in bigger fields being empty at the wrong end off the field cost a lot of time and creates a lot of unneeded driving about on soil

its makes a lot of difference to how much we get done in a day, if i could choose just 1 750a mod that would be it, 4m was even worse

I have even had JD dealers asking me to make and sell them extensions !

Can see your point. If topping up with 1t though in a hopper that takes comfortably more than that, you can still always fill up at the right end of the field. Then you just waste the time to fill twice with one bag each time rather than once with two. May try an autumn season with it and then decide.
 

RTK Farmer

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KJM

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The Merse
And can you stick a tap in the hydraulic line to stop the front set of coulters going down?

Sadly not. There is one ram per wing and a tie bar between front and back bar. Setting the front gang at the shallowest setting would be the easiest way.

Can see your point. If topping up with 1t though in a hopper that takes comfortably more than that, you can still always fill up at the right end of the field. Then you just waste the time to fill twice with one bag each time rather than once with two. May try an autumn season with it and then decide.

Before we modified ours you could put 3 bags of seed in if it was empty and it would hold two comfortably as soon as the level alarm went.

Did you put ISO blockage sensors on? Worth it or not? Simon said he doesn't often get blockages. Just thinking if we literally take seed out of the barn that it might be something to think about.

I had blockages on the drill when trying to run low fan speeds to stop seeds being blown on the surface. Weaving air bleeds have solved this for us. I am unsure if you can use the air bleeds with a blockage monitor as the seed could escape out the air hole if the coulter was blocked. I have a blockage monitor on another drill and have had about two blockages in ~8 years. What it is great for telling you is if you have run out off seed. A camera in the hopper may be a cheaper alternative.
 

RTK Farmer

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Yes, pipe run is very much flatter than recommended but unit mounts nicely on platform rails so we went with that position. The unit comes with air assist which is cheaper than having its own fan, in pic it's 1/2" pipe but now changed to 3/4" which works well. There is an elbow in the fan housing facing the air flow. Easy to fit when main air pipe is removed.
 
Can see your point. If topping up with 1t though in a hopper that takes comfortably more than that, you can still always fill up at the right end of the field. Then you just waste the time to fill twice with one bag each time rather than once with two. May try an autumn season with it and then decide.
Interesting to see that the default involves mechanical solutions. Being a mech fan I agree wholeheartedly to a certain extent, however at the start of this string the use of alternates such as S were discussed. N also has an effect at the right timing. Meta pellets are passe and if the experience of Methiocarb, Chlorpyrifos et al is repeated then you will be snookered.
There are very good alts available its just the knowledge of what, how and when to use them that is the key.
It is inadvisable to say for CRD reasons to say that a something KILLS, however the product I have used for years successfully against Flea Beetles is now being entered for CRD as a pesticide to replace Chlorpyrifos. Maybe I was not pissin in the wind!
 

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