- Location
- Scottish Highlands
What an utterly depressing scenario! I'd no idea things were as bad as this. Just so sorry to read it all. Feeling for you guys out there.
The madness of “one size fits all “
- Thread starter Bald Rick
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Headless chicken
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- Location
- West Wales
Can you think of how massive it would be and effects to the food chain if these cheap subsided meat didn’t exist. It would be catestrophic for a period. There are too many people making too much out of this tb job. Cows being taken, no visable tb into the food chain she goes.
lazy farmer
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- Location
- som/dor border
Not that I am aware of.
Cowski
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- Location
- South West
Attached is from Twitter today.
Wales has improved their testing regime which has helped but anecdotal evidence I’ve heard says there is quite a high level of DIY culling as a result of frustration at not being able to control the disease vector legally. I think this distorts the picture. We know culling works to control the disease but it has to be done effectively enough over a large enough area.
Sadly it looks like the inevitable has happened in so far as the disease has moved into the north of Wales and Cheshire.
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- Location
- Northern Ireland
Improving the testing regime has done absolutely nothing here. It has only got worse. There have been several changes to testing in the last year or two, so that it's actually quite hard to keep up with. But as I gather, there is no such thing as an inconclusive now if you have a reactor in a test. Severe interpretation is applied and inconclusives are shifted into reactor territory, or something like that. The net result may not be massively different to before though, because the department vet would always encourage us to let inconclusives be taken by them at the earliest opportunity.
I better not say too much more in case I jinx the reading of my test in the morning.
I better not say too much more in case I jinx the reading of my test in the morning.
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
Not actually correct.
Cattle go into the food chain as long as they only have it in one place.
If its in two or more places they get binned.
Rules change 1st Nov in Britain ref IRs, basically you will be able to send them for slaughter and claim compo ( per the table valuation ) if they get binned.
If you buy cattle during a breakdown and they then go down under that breakdown ( ie before you go clear ) you will only get 50% of the table valuation.
- Location
- Fife
The people who run tb taxi service, like The Secret World, should be stopped. It should be illegal to release badgers of any status anywhere.
- Location
- Pembrokeshire
NO vaccination was big money and didn't work
We have just started having our IRS and reactors taken (22 cows)
Welsh plan seems to be a policy of tighten the rules on farmers because they don't want to take the wildlife vectors
Last 6 months all our neighbours have gone down
TBF they are talking about NE Wales or the areas that border Cheshire & Shropshire.
Perhaps I am being naïve in thinking that we if have been infected, then there really is no hope of containing TB (never mind eradicating it) given all the factors in our favour - low risk area, housed herd, nothing bought in from infected areas, nothing bought in in the last 19 months, no nose to nose contact with other farm's livestock, very limited or absent wildlife vectors, modern infrastructure and so on - to the extent that even the ministry vet assigned to us is saying that "it is highly unlikely to be TB".
One thing of interest, it is being suggested by vets that the incidence of TB will be much higher this year because of the drought which forced cattle to graze lower than they normally would and therefore far more likely to have come into contact with deposited virus from saliva & urine
All true apart from the risk of your grass guzzling leaping deere ingesting something unsavoury! Chap in our discussion group lost a pile of cows after years of being free and traced to this in maize.
Only deer here are our Johns ....... never seen one in my life. Nor a badger and neither have our fox shooting friends.
Grass silage & whole crop wheat - we don't bother growing maize as too expensive and yield is not guaranteed around here
Were the 2 cows on the same Robot @Bald Rick ? , high UV all summer should have killed off the bacteria pretty quickly and wildlife should/would die off as food availability is lower, which is what NE were telling us. What food is brought in?
No, at best they would have had access to 2 machines but they may not have been in the same shed as there has been a lot of re-organisation following the rotary.
All bought in food comes in as blend, pellets or in bags other than standing grass crops which are ensiled
There is a possibility that if it is TB, then it could have travelled on a person. As usual with most UK farms, our biosecurity is not what it should be and we farmers have a tendency to wander around and kick at silage on the feed face
Person whould be highly unlikely, unless they were suffering with tb their self, slurry kit is a higher risk, but our neighbour only uses very local contractor has very tom, dick and Harry on they place and have very little tb, have they been slaughtered yet? And have you had the kill sheets to see if they found anything?No, at best they would have had access to 2 machines but they may not have been in the same shed as there has been a lot of re-organisation following the rotary.
All bought in food comes in as blend, pellets or in bags other than standing grass crops which are ensiled
There is a possibility that if it is TB, then it could have travelled on a person. As usual with most UK farms, our biosecurity is not what it should be and we farmers have a tendency to wander around and kick at silage on the feed face
Yes slaughtered, nothing found.
Pressing for the blood test to be done so we can get on. Doesn't half make you feel like a "dirty" farmer though
Mr Jones
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- Location
- Llancwmbwlchrhydyfoncenfach
It will get a whole lot more horrific for all involved, before it gets better. Always expect the unexpected with AVHLA Cymru, they are a total shambles.
Mr Jones
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- Location
- Llancwmbwlchrhydyfoncenfach
Behave, with a hostile Labour govt in Cardiff Bay pulling the strings, no chance of any progress.
lazy farmer
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- Location
- som/dor border
Sorry I was silly enough to think the press release in the link might have a grain of truth in it.
lazy farmer
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- Location
- som/dor border
Couldn’t bring myself to like that post but I know exactly the feeling you describe it’s horrible.Yes slaughtered, nothing found.
Pressing for the blood test to be done so we can get on. Doesn't half make you feel like a "dirty" farmer though