Incoming new scottish independent referendum.

czechmate · Jan 14, 2019

wanton dwarf said:
How do you justify not dredging for 20 years in the face of knowledge that soil from agriculture gets into canals ? Did the agricultural soil "magically" absolve the EA from resonsibility for the environment, property and human safety ?

Never mind the fact they were contractually obliged to do the work they were charging agriculture for ..

As a farmer, I do my utmost to make sure my soil stays within my fences. I don’t carry out practices that means the soil runs into the water courses, then expect someone else to dig it out and bring it back! How about the soil you own?

Henarar · Jan 14, 2019

Devil_0101 said:
No, that's quite right.

did you read the voting slip ?

Henarar · Jan 14, 2019

Devil_0101 said:
"Following the EU referendum result, Sturgeon said she would communicate to all EU member states that Scotland had voted to stay in the EU.

she got that wrong then

wanton dwarf · Jan 14, 2019

czechmate said:
As a farmer, I do my utmost to make sure my soil stays within my fences. I don’t carry out practices that means the soil runs into the water courses, then expect someone else to dig it out and bring it back! How about the soil you own?

Tell me .. do your relations work in the Environment Agency ? Would explain a lot.

Dikes, canals and rivers have always clogged up with detritus .. regardless of agricultural soil erosion. Rivers change course because of deposition .. Ox bow lakes are formed by rivers changing their path.

A normal maintenance routine of dikes, canals and rivers is to dredge .. to do otherwise risks human life on a significant scale. This practice has been going on for hundreds of years and remains solid good practice.

Do you follow good practice ?
Do you charge your customers and not give them the service they paid for .. for 20 years ?

Do you think river deltas are formed by magic ?

If the rainfall is heavy enough and your soil is caught out .. you'll have no control what-so-ever over events.

czechmate · Jan 14, 2019

wanton dwarf said:
Tell me .. do your relations work in the Environment Agency ? Would explain a lot.

Dikes, canals and rivers have always clogged up with detritus .. regardless of agricultural soil erosion. Rivers change course because of deposition .. Ox bow lakes are formed by rivers changing their path.

A normal maintenance routine of dikes, canals and rivers is to dredge .. to do otherwise risks human life on a significant scale. This practice has been going on for hundreds of years and remains solid good practice.

Do you follow good practice ?
Do you charge your customers and not give them the service they paid for .. for 20 years ?

Do you think river deltas are formed by magic ?

If the rainfall is heavy enough and your soil is caught out .. you'll have no control what-so-ever over events.

Haha, no.

Devil_0101 · Jan 15, 2019

Henarar said:
she got that wrong then

Yes man, your historians are wrong, your official documents are wrong, your politicians are wrong, your media are wrong, users in this forum they know everything. I'm starting to get pee'd off, looking for the day the UK will be out and you will be the new immigrants who come in EU to work for cheap. Oh, it wasn't me the one who said the plural of man is "mans" and not "men", then you pick on my engl like if i give a f* about it. Scotland voted to REMAIN, NI voted to REMAIN, Londinium voted to REMAIN, and a bunch of red necks voted to leave, this is your referendum and PERIOD. Regards.

Highland Mule · Jan 15, 2019

Another man’s country
Possessive, not plural.

You’re welcome.

Henarar · Jan 15, 2019

Devil_0101 said:
Yes man, your historians are wrong, your official documents are wrong, your politicians are wrong, your media are wrong, users in this forum they know everything. I'm starting to get pee'd off, looking for the day the UK will be out and you will be the new immigrants who come in EU to work for cheap. Oh, it wasn't me the one who said the plural of man is "mans" and not "men", then you pick on my engl like if i give a f* about it. Scotland voted to REMAIN, NI voted to REMAIN, Londinium voted to REMAIN, and a bunch of red necks voted to leave, this is your referendum and PERIOD. Regards.

calm down its not worth getting upset about
but you are wrong about all that

nivilla1982 · Jan 15, 2019

What's the fuss between Salmond, Sturgeon and the SNP?

Henarar · Jan 15, 2019

and I have not picked on your English
Scotland did not have a vote
NI did not have a vote
London did not have a vote
nor did England or wales for that matter

The people of the UK had a vote about what should happen regarding the UK's membership of the EU nothing else
simple enough really, perhaps to simple for some

Devil_0101 · Jan 15, 2019

The people of UK made a vote, and who is the people of UK? The australians? Scotland=remain, NI=remain, Londinium=remain, rest=leave. The quotes above from the prime ministers says it all. Out of 4 members that form the UK, not only 2 of them voted to remain, but your capital voted to remain too. Regards.

wanton dwarf · Jan 15, 2019

Devil_0101 said:
Yes man, your historians are wrong, your official documents are wrong, your politicians are wrong, your media are wrong, users in this forum they know everything. I'm starting to get pee'd off, looking for the day the UK will be out and you will be the new immigrants who come in EU to work for cheap. Oh, it wasn't me the one who said the plural of man is "mans" and not "men", then you pick on my engl like if i give a f* about it. Scotland voted to REMAIN, NI voted to REMAIN, Londinium voted to REMAIN, and a bunch of red necks voted to leave, this is your referendum and PERIOD. Regards.

Man's as possessive, singular - not as it makes ANY difference.

Plural usage is not correct in context as each man can belong to a different country, singular also has a historic cultural reference. Country can also have several meanings. "Another man's country" can literally mean a different perception of exactly the same thing, which observes the human condition.

I don't know why you've chosen to lecture on usage of language .. childish observance to grammer is used by some to subjugate others.

wanton dwarf · Jan 15, 2019

Devil_0101 said:
The people of UK made a vote, and who is the people of UK? The australians? Scotland=remain, NI=remain, Londinium=remain, rest=leave. The quotes above from the prime ministers says it all. Out of 4 members that form the UK, not only 2 of them voted to remain, but your capital voted to remain too. Regards.

Scotland 5.375 million people.
Northern Ireland 1.875 million people.
London 8.136 million people.

UK population 66 million people.

Anything else you want clarifying ? I assume you can count.

baabaa · Jan 15, 2019

nivilla1982 said:
What's the fuss between Salmond, Sturgeon and the SNP?

the pond not big enough for the both of them big fish

melted welly · Jan 15, 2019

nivilla1982 said:
What's the fuss between Salmond, Sturgeon and the SNP?

Big eck accused of unwanted pestering of women when 1st minister, said he didn’t, there was/is an investigation, Nicola allegedly had unofficial meetings with him , there’s an investigation into that and I think an investigation into an investigation..........not sure what’s happening, but they’re all very busy

ollie989898 · Jan 15, 2019

Devil_0101 said:
During the brexit referendum, the 62% of the scottish voted to remain in the EU.

About 2 years before an independent scottish referendum was held in scotland, in the 2014, a 55% voted to remain in UK against a 45% who voted to leave the UK.

Following the brexit, another scottish referendum was supposed to happen in the year 2017, but it was postponed after the brexit and relative article 50 directives. The Scottish Parliament voted 69–59 in favour of holding a second referendum on Scottish independence, however it was rejected because "at this time the scottish might be confused about what to vote".

Apparently there is going to be another scottish referendum in the year 2020, once the brexit process will be over, and this referendum might ask the scottish if they want to leave the UK and eventually join the EU.

What are your thoughts about it.

The English do not care what the Scottish do. All they do is moan about us anyway.

ollie989898 · Jan 15, 2019

wanton dwarf said:
Not that interested if Scotland stays or leaves.

But Scottish MPs in Parliament must be removed.

You cannot have a seperate politics in Scotland and then expect to have a say over everyone else.

I agree, remove all Scottish MPs from Westminster, hand them a cheque at the start of every year and say: 'sort it out yourselves'.I would do it for all the devolved regions. Their ministers would then either put up or shut up.

Henarar · Jan 15, 2019

ollie989898 said:
I agree, remove all Scottish MPs from Westminster, hand them a cheque at the start of every year and say: 'sort it out yourselves'.I would do it for all the devolved regions. Their ministers would then either put up or shut up.

if they had to sort it out themselves why would they need a cheque ?

ollie989898 · Jan 15, 2019

Henarar said:
if they had to sort it out themselves why would they need a cheque ?

Without the money from Westminster they would not survive.

arcobob · Jan 15, 2019

Henarar said:
if they had to sort it out themselves why would they need a cheque ?

The water is getting deeper and murkier by the minute. Taxes go into a common pot and benefits are paid in return, roughly on a per capita basis in the UK. The size of benefit varies from country to country as it does from region to region to some extent depending on earning potential versus need. If any of the regions/countries decided on complete independence they would have to become completely self sufficient or join another socialist organisation in order to become either a giver or a taker.or anywhere in between.. The EU is aiming to expand into a larger unit but is faced with the problem of taking on more takers and losing more givers or at least peeing off the givers to the extent that they become more disruptive and difficult.
Socialism is OK in theory until the money runs out and thus the EU experiment will hit the rocks well before the poor get rich enough to pay their way. There is one powerhouse driving this EU bus plus one close associate and 25 hangers on. At the moment the hangers on are happy to receive, the close associate is in domestic trouble and we are hopefully getting out while we can.

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100% I’ve had enough of farming!

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