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Bomber_Harris · Mar 18, 2019

what are the fundamental differences between the Catholic and Protestant religion?

and is this difference worth all this f**kery?

genuine question as I'm not religious whatsoever so I don't know what the technicalities are.that differentiate between the two religions

- Bomber

gone · Mar 18, 2019

Bomber_Harris said:
what are the fundamental differences between the Catholic and Protestant religion?

and is this difference worth all this fudgeery?

genuine question as I'm not religious whatsoever so I don't know what the technicalities are.that differentiate between the two religions

- Bomber

Between Anglican and Roman Catholic there is very little theologically, very small differences between them on immaculate conception and intersession, but basically interchangeable. Plenty of priest move from one to the other.
There are other Protestant religions with much bigger differences.
My Mother's family were Anglican but converted 2 generations ago to marry a Catholic, inter faith marriage was very difficult in Ireland back then.

M-J-G · Mar 18, 2019

gone said:
Between Anglican and Roman Catholic there is very little theologically, very small differences between them on immaculate conception and intersession, but basically interchangeable. Plenty of priest move from one to the other.
There are other Protestant religions with much bigger differences.
My Mother's family were Anglican but converted 2 generations ago to marry a Catholic, inter faith marriage was very difficult in Ireland back then.

Thankfully the whole thing is being diluted as time goes on, which is great for everyone, unless you make money from religeon, terrorism or segregation of course.

M-J-G · Mar 18, 2019

Bomber_Harris said:
what are the fundamental differences between the Catholic and Protestant religion?

and is this difference worth all this fudgeery?

genuine question as I'm not religious whatsoever so I don't know what the technicalities are.that differentiate between the two religions

- Bomber

Watch Derry Girls series 2 episode 1

Bomber_Harris · Mar 18, 2019

FYI you may recall a couple of weeks ago I posted that a Led By Donkeys Northern Ireland special was in the works. Up to now all the 230 odd billboards have all been erected on the mainland (with the exception of the one-day digital billboard special in Brussels to coincide with May's last cap-in-hand visit there)

well here it is, it went up on Thursday in the Falls Road, Belfast

Bombs away! tally ho! what, what

the permanent sign above the billboard should also have included “Elite private-jet flying hike dodger" imo

- Bomber

manhill · Mar 18, 2019

Oh mo bhron, mo bhron,
Is this sh!t going to start again. Poor Rosaleen!

Danllan · Mar 18, 2019

Bomber_Harris said:
...Falls Road, Belfast

Bombs away! tally ho! what, what

View attachment 777944

Great choice of site, speaks volumes...

Before the Referendum your Fraurer, Mrs Merkel, told us all that there would not be an EU army...

manhill · Mar 18, 2019

Bomber_Harris said:
what are the fundamental differences between the Catholic and Protestant religion?
and is this difference worth all this fudgeery?

genuine question as I'm not religious whatsoever so I don't know what the technicalities are.that differentiate between the two religions
- Bomber

One thinks it's right and the other knows it's right but I can't think which one is which.

Highland Mule · Mar 18, 2019

Bomber_Harris said:
what are the fundamental differences between the Catholic and Protestant religion?

and is this difference worth all this fudgeery?

genuine question as I'm not religious whatsoever so I don't know what the technicalities are.that differentiate between the two religions

- Bomber

They are both Christian, and hence are fundamentally the same, and sadly are both used as an excuse for violence and lawlessness by the respective factions. The religious difference is not the reason and never has been, but is a convenient thing for violent thugs to hide behind and claim as faux justification for tribal muppetry. Nothing is simple in Ireland, but there is one simple biblical requirement to love thy neighbour and to forgive those who sin against you. If the Irish all simultaneously lost religion and found Christianity, that would be the most wonderful of miracles.

The Agrarian · Mar 18, 2019

That's a pretty decent post actually mule. It's not perfectly correct, but it's getting close. You are right to say that the strife is almost never about religion itself, but that disputes arise between peoples of different religions mostly because religions tended to be part of a national identity, at least in bygone days. The dispute in Ireland is and always was, territorial, and between nationalities. And that might sound like a simple summary, but it's anything but simple.

There are fundamental differences between the religions, which I'm not inclined to bog into here, not least because I've too much respect for @Cowcorn. These things are deeply personal, and go to the core of who we are - which is why highlighting differences can cause problems at times. (Read up on 'The Reformation,' if you want to know how the differences came about). The irony is today, with the slump in religious observance and the rise of secularism (nice name for the worship of self), we have much more in common across the historical religious divides, than we do with those of no christian religion.

Highland Mule · Mar 18, 2019

The Agrarian said:
That's a pretty decent post actually mule. It's not perfectly correct, but it's getting close. You are right to say that the strife is almost never about religion itself, but that disputes arise between peoples of different religions mostly because religions tended to be part of a national identity, at least in bygone days. The dispute in Ireland is and always was, territorial, and between nationalities. And that might sound like a simple summary, but it's anything but simple.

There are fundamental differences between the religions, which I'm not inclined to bog into here, not least because I've too much respect for @Cowcorn. These things are deeply personal, and go to the core of who we are - which is why highlighting differences can cause problems at times. (Read up on 'The Reformation,' if you want to know how the differences came about). The irony is today, with the slump in religious observance and the rise of secularism (nice name for the worship of self), we have much more in common across the ancient religious divides, than we do with those of no christian religion.

Thanks. It’s been said that the only think that would unite the factions would be if ISIL became active in the region...

M-J-G · Mar 18, 2019

Highland Mule said:
They are both Christian, and hence are fundamentally the same, and sadly are both used as an excuse for violence and lawlessness by the respective factions. The religious difference is not the reason and never has been, but is a convenient thing for violent thugs to hide behind and claim as faux justification for tribal muppetry. Nothing is simple in Ireland, but there is one simple biblical requirement to love thy neighbour and to forgive those who sin against you. If the Irish all simultaneously lost religion and found Christianity, that would be the most wonderful of miracles.

Described before as the land of Irony, where people use an organisation that is based on honesty to promote a career based on dishonesty.
And people blindly support both.

Cowcorn · Mar 18, 2019

The Agrarian said:
That's a pretty decent post actually mule. It's not perfectly correct, but it's getting close. You are right to say that the strife is almost never about religion itself, but that disputes arise between peoples of different religions mostly because religions tended to be part of a national identity, at least in bygone days. The dispute in Ireland is and always was, territorial, and between nationalities. And that might sound like a simple summary, but it's anything but simple.

There are fundamental differences between the religions, which I'm not inclined to bog into here, not least because I've too much respect for @Cowcorn. These things are deeply personal, and go to the core of who we are - which is why highlighting differences can cause problems at times. (Read up on 'The Reformation,' if you want to know how the differences came about). The irony is today, with the slump in religious observance and the rise of secularism (nice name for the worship of self), we have much more in common across the historical religious divides, than we do with those of no christian religion.

Bang on the money there ag , I consider myself a Christian first the branch i belong to is largely irrelevant .

I live in the house of faith for the record its by the window facing rome . All around me are other people who have their own windows but far more unites us than divides us . These are my people this is my tribe.

You are correct when you say that in the future we will be all lumped together by the increasingly secularist society that is evolving Its already happening just look at the referendum in a the south last year , the NO campaign was not just a catholic rearguard It was opposed by the leaders of all the main churches .

alex04w · Mar 18, 2019

When it came to terrorism in Northern Ireland, it was convenient to label it as protestant against catholic.

Those that took either name had no religion whatsoever. Those that claimed to be republican / nationalist (aka catholic) never followed the teaching of their church. Those in Sinn Fien / IRA were more Marxist than catholic.

Those that claimed to be loyalist (aka protestant) never darkened the door of a church. They would not be able to explain the protestant religion, never mind what makes it to differ from catholicism.

Every night this week at 8pm, the Rev Thomas Martin is speaking in Ballymena Free Presbyterian Church at 8pm. The meetings are being broadcast on the internet ( https://ballymenafpc.org/ ). Just follow the clear link to 'Live Broadcast' at the top of the churches web page.

On Friday night 22nd March) Rev Martin will tell his life story - brought up a 'protestant' but never went to church. Knew nothing of religion. Join a proscribed loyalist terrorist organisation. Caught and sentenced to prison in the Maze Prison (the H Blocks). Whilst in prison he found the true meaning of being a 'protestant' and on his release from prison entered the churches college and became a minister. He is not scared to condemn his former associates as being nothing to do with the protestant religion.

Listening to him on Friday night will give you an insight into the twisted and convoluted history of the troubles and how it had nothing to do with religion as those involved had no religions leanings whatsoever.

M-J-G · Mar 18, 2019

Politicians kept the troubles going, spouting their nonsense at each other, pretending to dismiss their opposite number. All a smoke screen.

Luring young lads into terrorist organisations, watching them and those from the army risk their lives, whilst they sat back and watched from safety and had their fancy dinners and meetings in secret, laughing and joking, yet in the public eye they claimed that they wouldn't speak to each other. Liars to the core, and some of whom claimed to be religeous and some even men of God. They were not of any religion or God that I was ever taught about.

A shower of sh1t, with more blood on their hands than anyone who ever held a gun or planted a device, because they were the ones pulling the strings.

nivilla1982 · Mar 23, 2019

Police urged to act over IRA bomber’s claims
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...-to-act-over-ira-bombers-claims-37942258.html

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...o-uk-packages-terror-police-say-37942339.html
Bomb found at Irish postal depot linked to UK packages, terror police say

JP1 · Apr 1, 2019

Pond digger · Apr 1, 2019

The Agrarian said:
That's a pretty decent post actually mule. It's not perfectly correct, but it's getting close. You are right to say that the strife is almost never about religion itself, but that disputes arise between peoples of different religions mostly because religions tended to be part of a national identity, at least in bygone days. The dispute in Ireland is and always was, territorial, and between nationalities. And that might sound like a simple summary, but it's anything but simple.

There are fundamental differences between the religions, which I'm not inclined to bog into here, not least because I've too much respect for @Cowcorn. These things are deeply personal, and go to the core of who we are - which is why highlighting differences can cause problems at times. (Read up on 'The Reformation,' if you want to know how the differences came about). The irony is today, with the slump in religious observance and the rise of secularism (nice name for the worship of self), we have much more in common across the historical religious divides, than we do with those of no christian religion.

I find the bit in bold quite offensive: belief in fairy tales doesn’t make you superior, whatever you think.

The Agrarian · Apr 1, 2019

If it's Christianity you refer to, then quite the opposite is actually true (or at least a specified aim) - that rather than be convinced of our own self-importance, we are to examine carefully our shortcomings, and in light of that, behave in an appropriately humble fashion, putting the needs of others before our own. It stands in direct contrast to today's ME society, which I don't doubt is one reason why it's rather unpopular.

jpd · Apr 1, 2019

Danllan said:
I think it's great that you can come from Ireland and still be British. Of course geographically, and in other ways too, it must be remembered that Ireland is the real Little Britain...

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