When it all goes wrong ...?

puppet · Aug 2, 2020

yorkie said:
two tractors racing , blow the picture right up ?

I think that may be part of the smashed one?
Looks like he was braking hard while moving over to the right, hit the lorry and the weight of trailer jacknifed the tractor. The broken glass suggests the lorry has not moved much after the impact so may have almost been stopped. Just speculation from the photo.
The dashcam will probably tell us the opposite

glasshouse · Aug 2, 2020

Just imagine if ithadbeen your daughters car rather than a lorry

JP1 · Aug 2, 2020

roscoe erf said:
don't concern your self with facts this is just a gossip column

Exactly. I would imagine the road was not only closed for a while due to the scale of the clearance but because there would be an in-depth Road Traffic Accident Investigation.

The detail they go in to is extensive although it may be less as (happily) both drivers walked away

I would imagine the truck driver has more material to be examined on ; tacho, possibly telematics and on-board cameras

I am happy to wait to hear the official findings and, again, relieved that both drivers are reported to be walking wounded and not more severe injuries

Y Fan Wen · Aug 2, 2020

kiwi pom said:
Hopefully there isn't a cyclist or someone in the middle of that lot, that one of the vehicles was trying to avoid.

Artic petrol tanker got into difficulties on a downhill grade and failed to make the bend at the bottom, crossing over the other carriageway, through the barrier and down into the undergrowth. Driver shaken up but otherwise unharmed. After the panic died down one firecrew was detailed off to remain on site in case there was a spark. While waiting for the heavy lift trucks to arrive, one of the firemen realised that there was a car underneath and undetected. I had travelled that road in the same direction as the car about 15 minutes before.

Speedstar · Aug 2, 2020

only one thing is for sure it was Human error by one or both people, not nice to see at all glad they are all OK

Sid · Aug 2, 2020

Y Fan Wen said:
Artic petrol tanker got into difficulties on a downhill grade and failed to make the bend at the bottom, crossing over the other carriageway, through the barrier and down into the undergrowth. Driver shaken up but otherwise unharmed. After the panic died down one firecrew was detailed off to remain on site in case there was a spark. While waiting for the heavy lift trucks to arrive, one of the firemen realised that there was a car underneath and undetected. I had travelled that road in the same direction as the car about 15 minutes before.

That would be a never incident!

Speil would be lessons will be learnt !

8100 · Aug 2, 2020

Reminds me of Bar Hill at Madeley .I had run the gauntlet through there with the Tarrup 307 many a day not nice.

glasshouse · Aug 2, 2020

Y Fan Wen said:
Artic petrol tanker got into difficulties on a downhill grade and failed to make the bend at the bottom, crossing over the other carriageway, through the barrier and down into the undergrowth. Driver shaken up but otherwise unharmed. After the panic died down one firecrew was detailed off to remain on site in case there was a spark. While waiting for the heavy lift trucks to arrive, one of the firemen realised that there was a car underneath and undetected. I had travelled that road in the same direction as the car about 15 minutes before.

Dead?

JP1 · Aug 2, 2020

Y Fan Wen said:
Artic petrol tanker got into difficulties on a downhill grade and failed to make the bend at the bottom, crossing over the other carriageway, through the barrier and down into the undergrowth. Driver shaken up but otherwise unharmed. After the panic died down one firecrew was detailed off to remain on site in case there was a spark. While waiting for the heavy lift trucks to arrive, one of the firemen realised that there was a car underneath and undetected. I had travelled that road in the same direction as the car about 15 minutes before.

Hence why I get annoyed with baby on board signs when there isn’t one

The original board was brought out in America after an RTC and nobody noticed the baby on the back seat

Bald Rick · Aug 2, 2020

spin cycle said:
tachos in tractors

Possibly the cause .........

ollie989898 · Aug 2, 2020

Chopsy Varmint said:
And maybe a dashcam.

Lot of haulage companies have dash cams facing the road and one facing the driver, too.

Only camera in a tractor these days is likely the one being used for instagram streaming.

ollie989898 · Aug 2, 2020

roscoe erf said:
it was the cyclists fault

We all agree on something, I reckon that's a first on any machinery thread ever.

Johnnyboxer · Aug 2, 2020

ollie989898 said:
Lot of haulage companies have dash cams facing the road and one facing the driver, too.

Only camera in a tractor these days is likely the one being used for instagram streaming.

Harsh

ollie989898 · Aug 2, 2020

Johnnyboxer said:
Harsh

I did not say that was the case in this incident but there is a lot of mobile phone use taking place in tractors that are being driven on the roads these days. They are all perched up very high and very easy to spot doing it. How many tractor drivers are wearing their seat belts on the road as well?

Nearly · Aug 2, 2020

Put dashcams in tractors!

Treemover · Aug 2, 2020

Over here it seems every tractor on the road has to be driven by a person under 18 (probably on €60 per day) with either their best friend or girlfriend in the passenger seat. I am not saying every teenager is dangerous, but I find, many are trying to impress their mates, and now a lot are texting each other and other outfits as they work. All that said, I think the worst culprits are the lads over 60 driving tractors, most here cant judge the tractor or the middle of the road. Our insurance companies are awash with premiums, so they dont care about accidents, the insurance companies just make more money in the process and after math.

ollie989898 · Aug 2, 2020

Nearly said:
Put dashcams in tractors!

The use of dash cams in the HGV world is not uncommon. Some companies have cameras facing the driver as well, a lot will sack you for being caught holding a phone whilst driving. A lot of them will have what is essentially a tracker on their vehicle as well, indicating speed, breaking inputs and break times etc. All standard fare in the haulage world.

JeepJeep · Aug 2, 2020

Fleet of a few hundred PSVs we had a system that monitored Speed , Acceleration Braking Forces etc linked to bonus scheme.
Fuel usage dropped but insurance claims didn't..
Many had Cameras in and around the outside of the vehicle which occasionally proved useful unless tampered with. The next step that was coming were Forward and Driver Facing cameras...

Treemover · Aug 2, 2020

Am I right in saying, thinking, there is no driving test for tractors; just a theory test, but apply and licence is then granted?

Y Fan Wen · Aug 2, 2020

glasshouse said:
Dead?

one out of two

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