- Location
- South Wales UK
We all want a Ferrari but got to put up with a banger !
are new tractor over priced
- Thread starter montys
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It’s a market, they make a product they can sell.
Subs can be blamed somewhat, subsidy’s ruin a market, look at education, people used to be able to work a summer job to pay for school until the gov subs it to get more people to uni it drives the price up ruining the market making us spend more for a service that used to be affordable
Subs can be blamed somewhat, subsidy’s ruin a market, look at education, people used to be able to work a summer job to pay for school until the gov subs it to get more people to uni it drives the price up ruining the market making us spend more for a service that used to be affordable
I think the likes of JD would rather sell 1 £200k unit, rather than 10x £20k units.
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
- Location
- stoke on trent
we all like to return to1984 when barren cow would buy a new calved heifer.when steel price went up about 8 yrs ago,yes tractor prices went up fine so did old ones . the last new we purchased 1995 fiat 110-90 still reliable i cannot see how after land rents you can justif new.also years ago over 70 manufatures of tractors how many now i ges 5
As mentioned in another thread the dealers think machinery is cheap compared to labour so hence why they appear to have this take it or leave it attitude and I think why many of them have stopped chasing business. They think that all farmers will be forced into buying otherwise they can’t continue in business. Then that unit gets mopped up by a bigger outfit who is constantly doing business machinery wise anyway. If the land is farmed then the equipment will be required by somebody.
What they haven’t foreseen though is Brexit and ELMS.
What they haven’t foreseen though is Brexit and ELMS.
- Location
- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
We paid £3900 for a Ford 4000 in 1975 . I can buy a 55 hp Case with an air conditioned cab 45 years later for around £20000 so there has been a five fold increase in 45 years. I don’t think tractors are overpriced if you compare like to like.
- Location
- Cirencester
My T6090 was £72k 9 years ago, a T7.245 was quoted for £112k. Apart from the engine emission stuff what has changed??? The basic components of these two tractors are pretty similar yet the new one costs 40k more.
Was chatting to a salesman who works at a local dealer and by all accounts they've sold bugger all of late.
Was chatting to a salesman who works at a local dealer and by all accounts they've sold bugger all of late.
- Location
- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
Many of the gadgets fitted to tractors 10 years ago I hardly ever use.
I’m becoming frightened to buy new stuff for worry of having to learn how to use it!
Is there a hell of a lot of skills that drivers are loosing because the tractor does it all for them?
Then we now see the likes of NH releasing their new CH Combine. A Mid-range, fast, cheaper high capacity, light weight machine that has the capacity of the expensive flagship machines above it. The reason being that there is no 2nd hand market for the Flagship machines.
Sensible thinking at last!
Tbf inflation would account for half of that. And wasn't the T6090 175hp compared to the T7.245 200 hp?
michael N123
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My tractor goes from farm to Farm doing what 6 would of done in the 80s
ollie989898
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I forget, remind me when tractors or any other kind of machinery priced were based on the particular commodity they help produce? Grain? Beef? Coal? Iron ore??
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You're not comparing like to like. The Ford 4000 was 62hp, and a far better tractor.
Best thing is to let the arable boys buy the tractors new then us dairy boys can buy them secondhand at 4000 hrs and then the beef boys can buy them off us (paintwork protected by slurry) at 10,000 hrs then at 12000+ hrs the sheep boys can have a dib.
Seems fair to me
Seems fair to me
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
No they are not o we priced as they sell well ! If you all think they are over priced why keep buying them ?
Depends if you’re buying or selling.
Wouldnt be too bad if all the tech on these new tractors made them proportionally more reliable.
Wouldnt be too bad if all the tech on these new tractors made them proportionally more reliable.
GeorgeK
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- Location
- Leicestershire
Tractor sales will follow the path of cars as fewer buy them outright. We will sell a tractor we own outright and put the new one on finance because of the price difference. When the monthly finance payments become to much the next step is to move to renting one by the hour when we need it.
Keep going for years like this until there's no assets left and everything is rented
Keep going for years like this until there's no assets left and everything is rented
machinery isn't over priced. - ag commodities and contracting are underpriced
and i will add most farms are not very efficient and often have to much machinery and labour
