SilliamWhale
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All this gas price and energy price stuff going on with electricity I'd say a collapse looks extremely unlikely now...
Wouldn’t surprise me. Got 70ha on one farm going into the yearly stubble option.heard my old agronomist has lost 4000 ac crop walking to stewardship options .......bps loss driven IMO
Nothing to do with the price of grain then???Gas and shipping costs seems to be the biggest driver.
FFS just smell the coffee. You won't be using this stuff much longer. The associated emissions are just unacceptable for a country such as the UK.Nothing to do with the price of grain then???
do you want the country to starveFFS just smell the coffee. You won't be using this stuff much longer. The associated emissions are just unacceptable for a country such as the UK.
do you want the country to starve
It’s too late. Tens of thousands of acres going into stewardship and all that will feed is wildlife. Government haven’t worked it out yet but when they do it will be too late. Britain will be more dependent on imports. The green lobby in government has won and the public will have to get used to substandard imports or even empty shelves.do you want the country to starve
We are talking about different issues here. There is a website where you can choose price series for anything to show a coincidence or make up any kind of correlation you want. @Guy Smith used it in the past. I’ll show the prices of urea tracking corn futures more closely than natural gas futures if I can find it.FFS just smell the coffee. You won't be using this stuff much longer. The associated emissions are just unacceptable for a country such as the UK.
It’s too late. Tens of thousands of acres going into stewardship and all that will feed is wildlife. Government haven’t worked it out yet but when they do it will be too late. Britain will be more dependent on imports. The green lobby in government has won and the public will have to get used to substandard imports or even empty shelves.
It will be interesting to see if the UK fertilizer market continues to track the global price of urea in the medium term let alone other commodities.We are talking about different issues here. There is a website where you can choose price series for anything to show a coincidence or make up any kind of correlation you want. @Guy Smith used it in the past. I’ll show the prices of urea tracking corn futures more closely than natural gas futures if I can find it.
I agree that the government will tax N using the green agenda.
I get where you’re coming from nowIt will be interesting to see if the UK fertilizer market continues to track the global price of urea in the medium term let alone other commodities.
Er in the name of their profits within an over regulated captive market some might argue. In fairness to CF they are playing lip service to increasing N efficiency, something the whole industry needs to take seriously.I get where you’re coming from now
The lobbying by CF and Yara (both major global urea producers) against urea so it is penalised in favour of domestic AN will boost their margins. All in the name of reducing ammonia emissions
They will still have to fight against the nitrate pollution though.