Goweresque
Member
- Location
- North Wilts
Who does he engage with then...?
People who agree with him.
Martin Grantley Smith “moved on” / “retired”
- Thread starter warksfarmer
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People who agree with him.
glasshouse
Member
- Location
- lothians
Dont pay either
I think the angry post from Will Jackson illustrates perfectly the true depth of contempt these people have for the people who pay their wages, and in particular anyone who threatens the status quo of these organisations.
Since non of these organisations will engage with anyone with an opposing view, let alone respond to any criticism it does make you wonder if they have any relevance at all to ordinary working farmers.
Since non of these organisations will engage with anyone with an opposing view, let alone respond to any criticism it does make you wonder if they have any relevance at all to ordinary working farmers.
- Location
- East yorks
And the answer to that is no, they have no relevance to ordinary farmers.
- Location
- Berkshire
I was told last week that only 4% of levy payers had registered to vote last week
Please, register and have your say
Grower apathy is appalling when you consider the depth of feeling on RT
Should voting papers not be sent out
Yep 4%. If your on social media and tff you think everyone is really passionate (for both sides of the debate) . Fact is majority of farmers are either apathetic or don’t even realise what is going on.
- Location
- Yorks
Problem is they won't come on here and have a polite meaningful discussion about it. As someone said earlier, Janet Hughes from DEFRA has done, and hopefully we've put some useful points across for Janet and her team to use constructively.
Politicians go on Question Time or Newsnight and get asked difficult questions. They've to debate and justify their position to the public. AHDB etc. should also do this. It's accountability. It can unearth new ideas, mould decision making and help shape the best way forward. It's constructive.
Not engaging looks like they've got something to hide. Why can't AHDB spell out exactly what they've been doing to help levy payers on the unlevel grain playing field, what progress they've made, what they intend to do next to help us.
The silence is deafening.
- Location
- Berkshire
Have you not received a letter ??
Here’s the link to register
- Location
- Yorks
They don't know who the levy payers are, or how many of them exist.
They've only got a list of the ones who elected to sign up to emails etc.
The fact Janet throws herself into the shark tank on a daily basis, when NFU,AHDB, AIC, trade etc people don’t, I think is incredibly commendable.
- Location
- East yorks
We haven’t received one
if it wasn’t for stuff in here we wouldn’t know it was happening, if I think of all the smaller older growers locally I bet none know there is even a vote, levy is taken when they sell grain and that is their total interaction with adhb. My dad would have no clue this was happening
- Location
- East yorks
Taken out when you sell grain so no choice
- Location
- Hammerwich
the funny thing is. Last week I offered AHDB some of our time to help them with things like how to talk and communicate with farmers.
I think Will has very nicely shown they desperately need some help and a change to strategy.
My offer is still on the table and I’d say Is better value than whatever Will is paid a year.
I think Will has very nicely shown they desperately need some help and a change to strategy.
My offer is still on the table and I’d say Is better value than whatever Will is paid a year.
the apathy over this actually answers the unasked questions about AHDB right now
there needs to be a massive cultural change in these organisations to make them fit for purpose
DEFRA have gained massive respect through learning how to communicate better and face rather than simply ignore their critics
yet if their engagement director actually engaged here he would instantly engage with circa 85% of their levy payers …………. as i think he may have learnt today !
I think the apathy is a general farming thing to be honest. Don’t think the AHDB can be blamed for that.
i agree - i think most farmers are resigned to representation being poor / the sane few faces on a power trip merry-go- round and that they are powerless to really do anything about rubbish like dead tractor etc
proper farmers are also far to busy actually trying to farm to find time to do anything about it and ………. “ make change from within”
Goweresque
Member
- Location
- North Wilts
While it is commendable, one has to consider that 'Janet Hughes' on here might actually be a more junior member of Defra staff operating under her name. Anyone with the profile log in details can sign in and write responses, there's no guarantee the person replying to your question is actually Janet herself.
I suspect at the very least there's a team of junior staff who read the threads and look at all the times she's tagged in posts, and then identify specific posts for her to respond to. I doubt she's on here trawling through all our nonsense herself to find questions to answer.