Stubble turnips latest drilling date north yorkshire

Derrick Hughes said:

I don't farm In Pembrokeshire
I farm at 1000 ft not far from the Tregaron Hills
Some posters just like to couse arguments
Sid in particular
Maybe I should keep my opinions to myself , but if everyone did that there would be no discussion. I own a farm where a lot of trail work is done by Corteva and a few other companies, I see at first hand what's going on .
Maybe a shame If I keep that all to myself

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Sid said:

Then share the results of the trials on increasing grass seed rates and reducing forage crop seed rates.


We are all sharing our own experiences , some work some don't.
I have nothing to sell.

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Derrick Hughes said:

I don't think Corteva would be very pleased if I started sharing there trail work before it's even Published , but if you want to see first hand come to their open day next Month
And your selling jibe don't hold water
I sell a full range of Brassica seeds , I don't care what people sow but I will offer them advice if the need it
And why then would a seed seller be advising to sow brassica seed at a lower rare
. I have told you many times that I put more grass seed on that's recomended, but customers I will stick to the recomended seed rate
Trail work is not aways straight forward , the grass seed trails have been hit by the dry weather so germination is hard to judge apart from the Hybrids Ryegrass being far ahead of the Perennial, which is understandable

But back to the point
Turnips won't bulb if sown to thick
If your unsure in mid August about the weather and the prospect of rain then sow Forage Rape and up the seed rate , it will Crop a lot better that trying to get a leafy crop out of Turnips sown to thick
Seed rates are set for a reason that's very important where root crops are concerned
With grass seed it's more about cost unless the mixes contain Herbs and Legumes

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Early sowing pays off for stubble turnips - LG Seeds

We’ve taken a look back on this 2017 trial of stubble turnips to show the advantages of sowing early – ideal for after cereals! In a Limagrain field trial, on its innovation site in Lincolnshire, three crops of Samson stubble turnips were sown at two-week intervals from July 28, 2017...

lgseeds.co.uk

Derrick Hughes said:

With grass seed it's more about cost unless the mixes contain Herbs and Legumes

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Sid said:

Early sowing pays off for stubble turnips - LG Seeds

We’ve taken a look back on this 2017 trial of stubble turnips to show the advantages of sowing early – ideal for after cereals! In a Limagrain field trial, on its innovation site in Lincolnshire, three crops of Samson stubble turnips were sown at two-week intervals from July 28, 2017...

lgseeds.co.uk

Here's some actual trial data.
Showing bulb to leaf ratio, at recomended seeds rates

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Derrick Hughes said:

The biggest factor is weather conditions at the time so that Trial data is little more than unless, the best advise you ever get is from farmers who have the financial loss when it goes wrong and see how things are effected by climate
I sowed grass seed 3 weeks ago to test germination speed , nothing much as germinated so says nothing, it's no use sowing Turnips early if they sit in the ground for 6 weeks due to lack of rain is it

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Sid said:

Yet you have trials on your farm? But they are little more than useless.

So the results of your germination trials are don't sow if forecast is dry.
Your some expert.

I rest my case.

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Derrick Hughes said:

I don't know why I bother replying
That Trail you posted
What was the weather like in July When the sowed the first lot and what was the weather like in August when they sowed the 2cd , without that info how can you publish a yield comparison, but it stand s to sense all things being equal you will get a better crop if sown earlier. But you can't sow Stubble Turnips Early and graze Late or they be like eating an old boot

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Sid said:

I can't remember what the weather was like can you?

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Derrick Hughes said:

I would not think Rape as any more Drought tolerant than Turnips ,
And take longer to make a crop than a lot of others , also more expensive

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Derrick Hughes said:

But back to the point
Turnips won't bulb if sown to thick
If your unsure in mid August about the weather and the prospect of rain then sow Forage Rape and up the seed rate , it will Crop a lot better that trying to get a leafy crop out of Turnips sown to thick

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Derrick Hughes said:

The germination test was a disappointment as I was interested in seeing if adding 2 kg of Nitrogen to an acre if seed did speed up germination and growth in farm conditions and by how much

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DieselRob said:

You’ve soon changed your tune again in less than 24hrs

When a farmer from N Yorks tries to advise another farmer in the same area he obviously must be wrong vs a seed sales man

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Derrick Hughes said:

Read it anyway you want , for the thousand time
I would not sow Turnips at an increased rate , the risk is if they do all germinate you will get nothing but top


If its tops you want sow a crop that produces top
I have an opinion that some don't agree with WOW

Is Niel farming in North Yorkshire now

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DieselRob said:

The OP is from North Yorkshire, that’s who I replied to!

Your opinion changes more often than the wind. What use is that advise to anyone

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farmer dave136 said:

Seems to have got very dear stubble turnip seed

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Sid said:

Early sowing pays off for stubble turnips - LG Seeds

We’ve taken a look back on this 2017 trial of stubble turnips to show the advantages of sowing early – ideal for after cereals! In a Limagrain field trial, on its innovation site in Lincolnshire, three crops of Samson stubble turnips were sown at two-week intervals from July 28, 2017...

lgseeds.co.uk

Here's some actual trial data.
Showing bulb to leaf ratio, at recomended seeds rates

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lloyd said:

While that is interesting surely variety can make a difference
to results.That said in my experience in Welsh borderland on 3 soil types with alttitudes varying from
300ft to 800 ft turnips ideally need to be planted into moist conditions in the earliest slots .
They also benefit from being fed like most other crops to get full potential.
The wet north of the country might be completely different so many variables.

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Sid said:

I used @Derrick Hughes company as this is what he recommends to sow. Just not at the companies advised seed rate.
Any failure is then covered as the company will say, well if you had put the correct seed rate on.......

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