Wool, where are you sending yours this year?

Stw88

Member
Location
Northumberland
They are running a multi million pound business with a large number of employees.
They have no control over the auction or world price.
A bit like saying to the auctioneer at the market when your livestock are sold and they make less than you hoped that he would have to take a pay cut to pay you more!!

It is a producer controlled business in that most of the Board members are wool producers.
Why don't you stand for the job and sort it out?
Its ok their first out of a job when the whole thing collapses. Im not saying work for nothing but it would have shown their members some support and they might have got some support back. Have they tried doing things differently to reduce costs? Is the 40p cost of processing it adding 40p of value to what is sold?
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
They are running a multi million pound business with a large number of employees.
They have no control over the auction or world price.
A bit like saying to the auctioneer at the market when your livestock are sold and they make less than you hoped that he would have to take a pay cut to pay you more!!

It is a producer controlled business in that most of the Board members are wool producers.
Why don't you stand for the job and sort it out?
Because it will be a closed shop with all having very lucrative pay agreements. Anybody who stands for the job will be met with a board and executive very hostile to change because who wants to take less money…..unless you are the primary producer who has no choice. This last few years has clearly illustrated to me how farmers are being shafted by these large organisations who are supposed to be representing them but are really representing theirselves. AHDB, NFU etc. The industry post support removal, will simply not be able to afford all these parasitic relationships.
 

Frank-the-Wool

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Its ok their first out of a job when the whole thing collapses. Im not saying work for nothing but it would have shown their members some support and they might have got some support back. Have they tried doing things differently to reduce costs? Is the 40p cost of processing it adding 40p of value to what is sold?

Go and visit BW at Bradford or see your local depot.
Lots of things have been done differently over the years.

They take in the wool from any wool producer.
They arrange collection and have a countrywide depot structure.
It is graded by a skilled person with up to 5 years apprenticeship.
It is weighed and packed in high density bales of 350kg.
It is core tested to establish the micron, yield (dirt and moisture content), colour, strength etc.
The testing is done by WTAE in Wales, a subsidiary of BW and the only wool test house in the northern hemisphere.
It is lotted for auction in a sale lot of 9 tons. Only around 5 producers in the British Iles have enough wool to make a single sale lot. It is 9 tons to keep transport costs down as most Artics will carry 27 tons. Shipping containers 18 tons.
It is auctioned in a balanced way throughout the year from July to June, around 22 sales.
It is an on line auction system that operates in real time. It was the first in the world.
Once sold the buyer has to pay before it can be collected.

All of this for around 40p for some wool that won't even make that in the auction at the present time.
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
Go and visit BW at Bradford or see your local depot.
Lots of things have been done differently over the years.

They take in the wool from any wool producer.
They arrange collection and have a countrywide depot structure.
It is graded by a skilled person with up to 5 years apprenticeship.
It is weighed and packed in high density bales of 350kg.
It is core tested to establish the micron, yield (dirt and moisture content), colour, strength etc.
The testing is done by WTAE in Wales, a subsidiary of BW and the only wool test house in the northern hemisphere.
It is lotted for auction in a sale lot of 9 tons. Only around 5 producers in the British Iles have enough wool to make a single sale lot. It is 9 tons to keep transport costs down as most Artics will carry 27 tons. Shipping containers 18 tons.
It is auctioned in a balanced way throughout the year from July to June, around 22 sales.
It is an on line auction system that operates in real time. It was the first in the world.
Once sold the buyer has to pay before it can be collected.

All of this for around 40p for some wool that won't even make that in the auction at the present time.

always easier to blame someone else & expect everything for nothing though, isn’t it

for a start, with selling any product, if you want a good price the first point is to present a quality product . . .
 
All of these merchants were paying a lot more for the wool from the auction, they're saving a fortune. Do people really think the price will stay up if the wool board packed in? What happened to lamb prices when markets were shut over foot and mouth? Wool board needs to reform and cut some costs where possible but don't get rid of it.
 

Farmer_Joe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
The North
Jesus 9 tonnes at a time,

Db sell 1 bag (350kg) if you want some, maybe that not helping!

Until its worth more globally not sure there’s anything anyone can do but building new buildings seems foolish until there’s more money in the job?
 

muleman

Member
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wool away to DB yesterday
 

57shepherd

Member
Livestock Farmer
Having trouble getting our money for winter sent wool out of DB, think rest might just go under the cattle in the winter, better composted than given away
 
Having trouble getting our money for winter sent wool out of DB, think rest might just go under the cattle in the winter, better composted than given away
If the wool board finished,I wonder how low the private companies could push the price before everyone burns or composts? They'd have no reason to pay flat rate like they seem to now and there's no need to pay as much as they are at the moment anyway. If Laurene pierce have dropped their price ten pence,DB could drop theirs by nine and still be the highest payers.
 

muleman

Member
If the wool board finished,I wonder how low the private companies could push the price before everyone burns or composts? They'd have no reason to pay flat rate like they seem to now and there's no need to pay as much as they are at the moment anyway. If Laurene pierce have dropped their price ten pence,DB could drop theirs by nine and still be the highest payers.
The way I see it we might as well take the money while it's there....I can't see the wool board bouncing back , when the private buyers drop their price aswell wool will be to dispose of....it's already happening, DB were 20p for swale last year , this year docked to 10, there is no point letting them have it for that so I just disposed of it .
 

hill shepherd

Member
Livestock Farmer
The way I see it we might as well take the money while it's there....I can't see the wool board bouncing back , when the private buyers drop their price aswell wool will be to dispose of....it's already happening, DB were 20p for swale last year , this year docked to 10, there is no point letting them have it for that so I just disposed of it .
Fella at hill farm that was connected to Newton Rigg told me he's learnt that the nitrogen value in it is worth 17p/kg, we'll bed on top of ours
 

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