FETF grant

lazy farmer · Jul 31, 2023

Have been granted
£2518 towards a foot trimming crush and rotating brush.
thoughts on whether this is good value considering I will be adding to the debt by doing so.
I admit it would be nice to have a more accessible crush currently we are running around 97% 0s and I find it quite easy to do 3-4 preventative trims after each morning milking. It’s the drying of trims where I am doing 20-30 a day where it becomes a challenge. The brush was added to the claim to make the po8nts up. Currently we have a static brush.

vantage · Jul 31, 2023

lazy farmer said:
considering I will be adding to the debt by doing so.

And you’ll be taxed on it.

frederick · Jul 31, 2023

vantage said:
And you’ll be taxed on it.

So what's total spend likely to be and how much is the brush grant worth and what will the brush cost.

The foot crush is a no brainer but would think you are going to be well over 5k to have motors for all feet.

I presume split will be 75% crush and 25% brush.

If it closer to 50:50 still buy both but you will get the brush thrown in.

You will add a hell of a lot more to debt if you push yourself to hard and hurt yourself with your existing crush.

Keep On · Jul 31, 2023

lazy farmer said:
Have been granted
£2518 towards a foot trimming crush and rotating brush.
thoughts on whether this is good value considering I will be adding to the debt by doing so.
I admit it would be nice to have a more accessible crush currently we are running around 97% 0s and I find it quite easy to do 3-4 preventative trims after each morning milking. It’s the drying of trims where I am doing 20-30 a day where it becomes a challenge. The brush was added to the claim to make the po8nts up. Currently we have a static brush.

Anything that makes foot trimming easier is money well spent in my book

Sid · Jul 31, 2023

lazy farmer said:
Have been granted
£2518 towards a foot trimming crush and rotating brush.
thoughts on whether this is good value considering I will be adding to the debt by doing so.
I admit it would be nice to have a more accessible crush currently we are running around 97% 0s and I find it quite easy to do 3-4 preventative trims after each morning milking. It’s the drying of trims where I am doing 20-30 a day where it becomes a challenge. The brush was added to the claim to make the po8nts up. Currently we have a static brush.

3-4 out of how many cows?

lazy farmer · Jul 31, 2023

Sid said:
3-4 out of how many cows?

260

happycows · Jul 31, 2023

Just do it.
I bought one in 2018 for £14k. It’s paid for itself several times over already and worth more now than that. New today it is £22k.

O'Reilly · Jul 31, 2023

£5k isn't going to break you on 260 cows. I know it's a slippery slope, and there's a principle at stake, but you're improving your farm. £50k on a new tractor, different matter.

Farmer Keith · Aug 1, 2023

happycows said:
Just do it.
I bought one in 2018 for £14k. It’s paid for itself several times over already and worth more now than that. New today it is £22k.

Of course you are right in what you say but the run away inflation in equipment values can’t go on forever can it? Not likely they’ll fall much but demand has surely fell off a cliff this last 6 months, just as well for the manufacturers that there’s a grant scheme in operation or there’d be very little business to be done at the moment.

pappuller · Aug 1, 2023

lazy farmer said:
Have been granted
£2518 towards a foot trimming crush and rotating brush.
thoughts on whether this is good value considering I will be adding to the debt by doing so.
I admit it would be nice to have a more accessible crush currently we are running around 97% 0s and I find it quite easy to do 3-4 preventative trims after each morning milking. It’s the drying of trims where I am doing 20-30 a day where it becomes a challenge. The brush was added to the claim to make the po8nts up. Currently we have a static brush.

for a chap who has previously been a little dissmissive of grants i find it quite amusing you are now playing the system to get one, but seriously jfdi

lazy farmer · Aug 1, 2023

pappuller said:
for a chap who has previously been a little dissmissive of grants i find it quite amusing you are now playing the system to get one, but seriously jfdi

It doesn’t sit easily.
Am probably not going too.

frederick · Aug 1, 2023

lazy farmer said:
It doesn’t sit easily.
Am probably not going too.

So the only way the UK has any chance of making cars beyond 2030 is to give100s if millions to battery factories in grants and cheap loans so we can keep buying cars and you have an issue in taking 2k towards a foot crush to improve your animals welfare and try to help secure food production in the UK.

Kiss · Aug 1, 2023

do you need to trim them all pre dry off? When ever iv seen it done by trimmers always seem to have more lame the week after than we did all year

kp_n_plghng · Aug 1, 2023

What's your issue with taking the grant? Not trying to draw you, but am interested to hear it.

vantage · Aug 1, 2023

Kiss said:
do you need to trim them all pre dry off? When ever iv seen it done by trimmers always seem to have more lame the week after than we did all year

Obviously haven’t got the best trimmer!
Can honestly say Lyn who comes here is the absolute Gold Standard in trimmers.

In the pit · Aug 1, 2023

vantage said:
Obviously haven’t got the best trimmer!
Can honestly say Lyn who comes here is the absolute Gold Standard in trimmers.

Richard here ,everything done when dry and very little to do during lactation

Kiss · Aug 1, 2023

Iv seen it with more than one trimmer, maybe whole herds in a couple days not ideal but men pushing cows to them to, No trimmer used here, <5% of cows lifted a year for 3 consecutive years. No dry off trim either

I just mean lazy has invested considerably into his track infrastructure I’d be expecting to dividends

Kiss · Aug 1, 2023

vantage said:
Obviously haven’t got the best trimmer!
Can honestly say Lyn who comes here is the absolute Gold Standard in trimmers.

Please don’t tell me you’ve a fancy crush on a grant job and paying a trimmer as well

vantage · Aug 1, 2023

Kiss said:
Please don’t tell me you’ve a fancy crush on a grant job and paying a trimmer as well

Nope, my foot trimmer has that, £75k the last one!

In the pit · Aug 1, 2023

Kiss said:
Please don’t tell me you’ve a fancy crush on a grant job and paying a trimmer as well

No crush here

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