BT copper wire land lines going

Old Boar

Member
Location
West Wales
I was quoted £63,000 two years ago for FTTP. Oddly enough, I did not go for it.
But I will be OK when they remove the copper, because the line is aluminium here. Not enough broadband for Wifi, or those phones...

When they take 2g out, the alarms and the older smart meters will stop working. The 999 calls go through 2G. So if this roll out goes ahead, I wont have a phone and wont be able to phone 999. Progress!
 

Paddington

Member
Location
Soggy Shropshire
We complained to BT about bad internet and intermittent phone connections. They reluctantly sent an "engineer" out. He couldn't find any fault, but as was a broadband engineer he was not allowed to do anything outside the house. We rang BT again, they sent a wireman out who put up a ladder against our wall and reported the cable was loose.
Another time we had a problem owing to a junction box up a pole filling with water, (get loads of these mate !). This was fixed but after heavy rain the next week, the problem was back, BT said they couldn't send anyone out for a couple of weeks. I said not to worry I would get my ladder and drill a small hole to let the water out. .Openreach man was round that afternoon. :happy:
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
You forget most of the UK infrastructure would be familiar to those living 100+ years ago.

we, ( here, in regional NSW ) didn’t get “automatic” telephones until 1983. Prior to that, we had a manual exchange in the local village & our farm was on a “party line” shared with about 4 or 5 other households

school friends who lived in town couldn’t understand it, as they had always had automatic phones, since the 60’s
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
I musk say I don’t trust Elon but I think starlink will do well in our area.
I have Starlink as it is the only thing that will work here. You would think we were in a third world country apart from the fact third world countries have recognised the value of everybody having a functioning internet service.
 

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
we, ( here, in regional NSW ) didn’t get “automatic” telephones until 1983. Prior to that, we had a manual exchange in the local village & our farm was on a “party line” shared with about 4 or 5 other households

school friends who lived in town couldn’t understand it, as they had always had automatic phones, since the 60’s
An interesting conversation with BT many, many years ago about getting an extra line. Was told how tricky it was and how £££. I said can't be that hard as I've been up the pole and you've got a spare one already there. Default answer is always no with these types.
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
we, ( here, in regional NSW ) didn’t get “automatic” telephones until 1983. Prior to that, we had a manual exchange in the local village & our farm was on a “party line” shared with about 4 or 5 other households

school friends who lived in town couldn’t understand it, as they had always had automatic phones, since the 60’s
I was in boomi NSW in 1987, it was an exchange phone there, button a and button b.
My mate from home phoned the exchange looking for me to get together at xmas.
Told the woman he was looking for a scotsman working in the area.
She said he is over in the pub, just hold the line.
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
I think that page has been updated, previously was it not 2025 and they would turn off ALL copper lines......?

It now says "We’re rolling out Ultrafast Full Fibre broadband to 25 million homes and businesses by December 2026,"...

Google says in 2021 there were more than 26.4 million dwellings in the UK, never mind business premises..... so perhaps that tells folk like me who are very unlikely to ever see a fiber connection all we need to know.....

However some hope we will not be entirely disconnected and can keep our copper delivered standard broadband indefinitely

"If you're not able to get Ultrafast Full Fibre at your premises you won't be impacted, and will still be able to keep your existing copper product until it's available."
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Spoke to an Openreach tech at the side of our road at lunchtime.
The ducting has just been dug it, cables pulled through soon, but we have to wait for a connection in either December or March depending on which quarter we are allocated to.
They're also doing the rural network before the village, which is nice.

Question: will I have to use BT as a broad band provider, or will I have the option to shop around for a provider who won't try to charge me an arm and a leg for a decent package?

[Openreach guy said he's just been connected at home in a nearby hamlet with a "staff perk" package, and his broadband speed has gone from 0.5 mbps to 900 mbps !]
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Spoke to an Openreach tech at the side of our road at lunchtime.
The ducting has just been dug it, cables pulled through soon, but we have to wait for a connection in either December or March depending on which quarter we are allocated to.
They're also doing the rural network before the village, which is nice.

Question: will I have to use BT as a broad band provider, or will I have the option to shop around for a provider who won't try to charge me an arm and a leg for a decent package?
You can shop around and whoever gets your contract will contract Openreach to connect to a terminal outside your premises [a little plastic box]. Not sure who will wire up from there into your router/modem but since I had BT as my internet supplier it was Openreach, after I had my hardware delivered by courier some time in advance.
 
Same here. I have offered to put in armoured fibre, but they said they still need to use ducting.
Ducting not necessary here are BT contractors mole ploughing fibre straight in the ground in my field. I'm still not sure how our few houses down a small valley in Wales got full fibre to the premises!

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HolzKopf

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Location
Kent&Snuffit
I sort of agree with the residents. There’s nothing more unsightly around the country than poles and wires everywhere. Just because we are used to them doesn’t make them disappear if you look.

Yes, everything should be underground. It’s bad enough having electricity poles and lines despoiling our environment.

Surely you've heard of messrs Sunak & Gove, Jerry-Builders (Westminster) Ltd, . Their proposal is to level 'down' completely the countryside by allowing free reign to more pylons and onshore wind farms with bu**er-all planning or consultation. We are supposed to worry about leaving our grand kids a fossil driven country but give scant regard to irretrievably wrecking the place in the process

And don't get me started on food security........

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