2019 all over again?

Old apprentice

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Arable Farmer
To be fair, we're just a week offset from you guys. We had the wet Wednesday and 50mm last Friday night and Saturday. The crops drilled on proper land the week previous are as sad as you fear.

It doesn't look bad on the surface now, after a bit of wind, but a delve with the penknife doesn't end well.
Did you roll it?
 

e3120

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Did you roll it?
Most of it. In my defence it needed it in places and the forecast wasn't as bad. I'm not sure the rolling is too much of a factor.

What's annoying me is where volunteer stripes must have been harbouring sluggies. Ironicly these lines went in nicer due to the moisture drawing effect of the unintentional catch crop.
 

Old apprentice

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Arable Farmer
Most of it. In my defence it needed it in places and the forecast wasn't as bad. I'm not sure the rolling is too much of a factor.

What's annoying me is where volunteer stripes must have been harbouring sluggies. Ironicly these lines went in nicer due to the moisture drawing effect of the unintentional catch crop.
My opinions as I spoke to agronomyit was I am not going to roll and his answer was I have stoped all rolling. He is not a million miles from you.
 
Compared with 20 19
I have more wheat planted in area but will have to see in the spring how much survives
2012 had more wheat planted but 50% of planted area was redrilled we cultivated in those days

we also have a big area planted to cover crops before planned spring crops
and an area of stewardship non rotational crops which has an income without combineing
so on balance have less spring crops to plant than 2019 and 2012

will be looking at sfi crops to fill some of the spring area

the combine will have less to do than any time since 2007
 

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
2019 I planted nothing until spring. 50% barley, 50% oats. All covered their costs.
2023 I have 60ac grass, 160ac wheat which was drilled just before the rain, and 60ac just subsoiled.

However this year I have a much larger mortgage to pay. I will not look at the wheat until Tuesday. If its bad, the lot will get westerwolds spread on it; digestate in spring and sold as standing silage. I have a chap coming to look at SFI and if its a goer then the 60ac will go in with legume fallow for three years.
 

Wombat

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BASIS
Location
East yorks
Definitely not as bad as 2019, this year has been tricky but 2019 was a different league had already had 110mm from the 21st sept to today and there was still another 70mm to come for the rest of Oct taking us to 180mm in 40days
People have actually got crops drilled this year some look really good.
 
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Chuckie

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Location
England
Definitely not as bad as 2019, this year has been tricky but 2019 was a different league had already had 110mm from the 21st sept to today and there was still another 70mm to come for the rest of Oct taking us to 180mm in 40days
People have actually got crops drilled this year some look really good.

I've just been to York this morning, it's a different world that side of the pennines. Fields look in good order and didn't see anything looking waterlogged until I was nearly home😭
 

Zippy768

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
It's now down to 4 days. Sat, Sun, m, Tues. According to the BBC weather app
Day one of "dry" spelll....its pis5ing down!
One hand glad I stuffed some ww into some questionable seedbeds, which now will not drill until spring.
On the other hand, I should had pitched on with the drill on Weds instead parking it up for the following weeks nice weather.

Cattle will now be coming because of ground conditions and not lack of grass, I would imagine
 

bankrupt

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Location
EX17/20
Day one of "dry" spelll....its pis5ing down!
Same here, all morning.

Autumn 2019 was actually a bit worse for us than this year was, having finished a whole fortnight earlier this time.

However, that crop did actually look quite good until it got properly cooked by the severe drought in April/May 2020.

Interestingly, among several other problems, when it rained big in June we then had the fun of managing two distinct crops of winter oats, ripening some 8 weeks apart.

Can't wait to discover what fresh delights 2024 will bring us.
 

Wombat

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BASIS
Location
East yorks
Same here, all morning.

Autumn 2019 was actually a bit worse for us than this year was, having finished a whole fortnight earlier this time.

However, that crop did actually look quite good until it got properly cooked by the severe drought in April/May 2020.

Interestingly, among other problems, when it rained big in June we then had the fun of managing two distinct crops of winter oats, ripening some 8 weeks apart.

Can't wait to discover what fresh delights 2024 will bring us.
I have crops in the ground so that’s a start vs 2019
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Worst headland. I'd say the whole 35ac field will get binned. Dad will say give it a go but it's roots will be sh!t and won't yield.

Second pic is common all over. Little ponds on headlands ready to be one big sprayer traps.

I've stood water on subsoiled barley stubbles.

SFI chap coming on Tuesday. So far, only lost the cost of the seed and my pride.
 

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DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Worst headland. I'd say the whole 35ac field will get binned. Dad will say give it a go but it's roots will be sh!t and won't yield.

Second pic is common all over. Little ponds on headlands ready to be one big sprayer traps.

I've stood water on subsoiled barley stubbles.

SFI chap coming on Tuesday. So far, only lost the cost of the seed and my pride.
And here unless it’s all sand. Drove down to Lincoln yesterday afternoon. Lots looks like that. Ponds, saturated ground. A washout. Agronomist is waiting to see if we’ve got anything worth spraying. Fairly hard cap on it as well due to the surface being pounded. Not seen autumn drilling like this in my lifetime.
 

B'o'B

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Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
i don’t know what the forecast is like in your area but I now have another 45mm forecast over Wed/Thurs/Friday. If that arrives we will be in 2019 territory. Glad to have half the farm in AB15 this time around and pushed on really hard with drilling before the weather broke, I know not everyone had that window so counting my blessings.
Pre-ems aren’t on and will now be peri-ems (or post-em in a couple of fields) so plans to put some glyphosate in with them are now shelved, which could give me some interesting agronomy decisions in the spring.
 

Zippy768

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
Of all the infuriatingly wrong forecasts we have had, the one that was suggesting that we were in for 10 days dry, has pis5ed me off the most.
Will now attempt to start mauling in the remaining wheat after lunch tomorrow. Already know it will be questionable.

Weather looks rainy after Tuesday for foreseeable.......but can one even believe that🤷.

Do they not realise that people need a forecast for far more than knowing to wear a coat the following day or a sun hat??
 

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