- Location
- Lincolnshire
Family reunion. In California. Week or so either side. Sleeper through rural Oregon. Seeing old friends.....maybe just a little bit of toy soldiers
Back for annual farm tidyup night.
2019 all over again?
- Thread starter Jsmith2211
- Start date
Back for annual farm tidyup night.
Gill Horse
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- Location
- lancashire
200mm here in that time and it's still raining. Pub tonight I think
farmerm
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- Location
- Shropshire
I reckon it needs flailed at least twice in the first year and then each autumn else it smothers itself with dead material, doesnt get goin in spring and the grassweeds get a jump on it. I think I prefer the nectar pollen option as it pays a bit more and in CSS it was always intended to be in the same spot for more than 2 years...
If I was putting the whole farm in legume fallow or nectar pollen I would be buying a much wider flail topper and if planning for more than 2 years, a weed wiper to slow the propagation of spear thistles and ragwort...
The rules state you can not cut or graze "in a way that cannot reasonably achieve the aims". The aim is to provide areas of flowering plants so as long as you don't cut all of it at the same time.....
farmerm
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- Location
- Shropshire
sow spring 24 gives you summer 24, 25 and 26 with wheat Autumn 26.
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
The rules state you can not cut or graze "in a way that cannot reasonably achieve the aims". The aim is to provide areas of flowering plants so as long as you don't cut all of it at the same time.
I took that sentence as allowing winter grazing? No flowers in winter?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
A SFI commencement date of say 1st Nov 2023 would mean legume fallow established in the first 12 months. The scheme end date would be 1st Nov 2026 and would be free to plough it out from them.
In my case, this would allow the land that was due to go into spring crops to be established in spring, and any silage 1st cuts made before a later sowing there. This fits my farming timelines; allows the fields to get over this wet; a general tidy up / planting of hedges etc; reduction of blackgrass etc. And more importantly a known but small loss as opposed to a LARGE loss this year and general uncertainty. The loss would be less than the cost of going and renting a home elsewhere, so quite manageable.
Although its never nice locking into a small loss, it certainly wouldnt be the first time in my farming life I have done so in order to "stay in the game" for better times.
marshbarn
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- Location
- shropshire
sick of looking at spoilt fields , having some beers and forgeting about it all for a bit . it took us 2 years to sort out the rotational mess of 2019 and it will be another 2 years to sort 2023 unplanted fields and spoilt crops.
Sounds like a reasonable plan, not much else you can do that will be more effective.
Looking around there will be quite a few people regretting rushing about at the start of the week trying to beat the weather. A lot of soil has moved locally in the last 24 hours.
Jo28
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- Location
- East Yorks
Know how you feel at least in 2019 we didn't spend ghe time and effort drilling crops. This year managed to get 75% in only to see it knackered straight away. If spring is kind some will be planted but we will fallow a large area now and work it up June/ July ready for next year.
My thoughts too , 1st loss is the best sometimes
farmerm
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- Location
- Shropshire
I see what you mean, establish Autumn 2024 and you meet the aim for summer 25 and summer 26 but don't have to for summer 27 because your agreement activated Nov 23 would have ended... that cant be right, I am all for finding the loopholes to sqeeze as much out of this as I can but surely with a 3 year agreement paid for 3 years we have to meet the aim for 3 summers do we not
Thing is if you haven't hit the submit button already I rather doubt you would get a response quick enough to activate a 1st Nov 2023 start date... I don't want November wheat, December even less... I guess I will have to hold off activation until 1st September...
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Its not so much about loopholes. One way or another they get a full 36 months of no crop from me. So its fair that I get 36 months of money. While it would be more beneficial to tie it in with an end date of say August, personally Im happy to chance getting either some autumn ploughing in Novmber or Deceember 2026, or a spring cereal direct drilled in spring 2027. Having drilled legume fallows for the past 6 years, the best establishment has come in late May drillings. The poorest always after wheat. Given the seed cost, its reasonable to try and avoid redrilling.
A big benefit for me would be the notion of a tidy farm. 12m field margins with wild flowers, and infields of legume fallow, with some newly planted hedges would be a nice thing to have. But yes start dates need aligning with farming practices.
A big benefit for me would be the notion of a tidy farm. 12m field margins with wild flowers, and infields of legume fallow, with some newly planted hedges would be a nice thing to have. But yes start dates need aligning with farming practices.
- Location
- Darlington
All this ,2019 talk, we were still picking taties on this day 10 years ago, until we got rained off.
Is your arse just over the horizon behind the sun?
About May ?
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Exactly what I'm thinking. Untouched stubbles will drain well and it can't rain forever so I'm hopeful of a break in the rain before too long. The soil will plough up dry and plant well provided it isn't being rained on at the time.
Worked well in 2019 in the end so I'm hopeful of pulling off the same trick this year.
Just gotta keep thinking how much I'm reducing the blackgrass burden by.
No worries , the beast from the east 24 will dry it out
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
To be followed by a spring drought that lasts until December 2025?
- Location
- Northumberland
I could pop down to the field for a pic over the weekend - I have a hunch that it's not quite as sunny now...Is your arse just over the horizon behind the sun?
The wind has been hard on tender plants here on the east coast, nearly as bad as the wet. To change direction tomorrow, hopefully.