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The war in Ukraine...
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Meanwhile over on the Red Sea, a few Houthi camel herders, are giving the two fingers to USA!
I get ever more convinced these days, that the west‘s arrogance relating to the superiority of their military and “kit”, is as displaced as can possibly be.
The ‘No-Fail’ Mission to Protect the Red Sea Isn’t Working
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...-mission-to-protect-the-red-sea-isn-t-working
There was a piece on the BBC with the reporter on HMS Diamond , he said they shot down 18 missile in 4 hrs , each missile travelling a 3x the speed of sound, 2 minutes warning to the crew, mostly shot down with their own missiles but a few shot down by 30mm auto cannon. HMS Diamond is fitted with Phannex ( not spelt right? ) but so far nothing has got that close.
I'm not sure many ships could cope with that level of attack, imagine the British Navy in the Falklands, the Houthis would sink most of our fleet if ship defence hadn't been improved.
Those camel herders started firing missiles because of US &UK stupidity in full heartidly supporting Israeli genocide in Gaza so firing missiles was their way of punishing the West.
US & UK crass stupidity in thinking that bombing the whole area was ever going to stop them just shows how dumb the US & UK leadership really is, all it did was turn ever more people against Western hypocrisy!
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That's the thing, you'd think that being the biggest country in the World, Russia could just have e.g. a 50 mile wide 'defensive' zone, mines, entrenchments etc. etc. along all / any part of its border it feels is at risk from the nasty democracies.Obviously, the only place they can make a legitimate buffer zone, is in Russia
Are you including your beloved Switzerland when you refer to 'Western hypocrisy'? After all it is a corrupt and hypocritical state, what with accepting huge amounts of money form crooks and dictators while pretending innocence.
And what about your beloved Russia under Putin, no lack of hypocrisy there; what is your take on the terror attack in Moscow, was Ukraine behind it or at least linked to it as Putin claims? Or is the rest of the World right, and the blame lies solely with IS-K?
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Yes I saw that. The ship defenses are clearly excellent but it is an expensive operation given the interceptors are no doubt far more money than the attacking missiles. It would be interesting to know if 18 missiles arriving in 4 minutes rather than 4 hours would have been as successfully repelled. Maybe the Iranian weapons are very poor compared to Ukraine's or maybe our defenses really are much better than Russia's but the attackers will learn, attacks will evolve. Mach 3 capable missiles are no back street garage fabrication from a drainpipe and some fertiliser.
The thing is the Swiss are not hypocrites, unlike the UK & others that are more than happy to have Russian & Chinese money when it suits them & then get all high & mighty when it doesn't, the Swiss try & stay neutral helping where they can.
Only complete morons believe the Russians who it would seem are unable to advance against a rag tag average 43 Ukrainian army armed with second hand weapons & little ammo are somehow a risk to Europe & NATO.
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The probability of Ukraine being involved in the Crocus attack is less than zero, but the FSB, I would put that at 60-70% There are striking similarities between a few of the FSB agents who arrested the suspects with a couple of people who are seen in some of the footage from the attack. Coincidence, maybe, maybe not.
Meanwhile the kremlin keeps spreading its lies...
The captain said the Houthis missiles are improving fast, someone using it as a testing ground?
I think your right and I think the Houthis are increasing the intensity of their attacks.
They've leant naval warfare pretty quick and could leave our technology behind , which I think @Ashtree was referring to.
Going to be an expensive lesson if they end up sinking HMS Diamond which we can ill afford to replace.
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Are these the same Swiss who claim not to support or aid 'governments' with bad human right records?
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Funniest thing is that Belarus dictator Lukashenko has entirely contradicted Putin's account...The probability of Ukraine being involved in the Crocus attack is less than zero, but the FSB, I would put that at 60-70% There are striking similarities between a few of the FSB agents who arrested the suspects with a couple of people who are seen in some of the footage from the attack. Coincidence, maybe, maybe not.
Meanwhile the kremlin keeps spreading its lies...
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I would suggest government fund any such replacement by seizing the assets of British residents who side with russia or clearly take delight in such a prospect...
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"Speaking to Belarus media, Mr Lukashenko said he closed the border with Russia following a personal request from Mr Putin in the aftermath of the atrocity.
“He asked me, ‘will you help me close [the Russian-Belarusian border]?’” Lukashenko said in remarks carried by the official Belta news agency. “He said, ‘I will. We’re doing everything’. That was the conversation.”
“That’s why they turned around and went toward the Ukrainian-Russian section of the border.”
What is even more funny is the notion that putin couldnt even close off his own boarder with Belarussia without Lukashenko's assistance
Does sending money to Ukraine qualify as aiding such governments
UKRAINE 2021 HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT
313615_UKRAINE-2021-HUMAN-RIGHTS-REPORT.pdf
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The rumours are that a large number of Russia's 'border security' personnel have been assigned to other duties..."Speaking to Belarus media, Mr Lukashenko said he closed the border with Russia following a personal request from Mr Putin in the aftermath of the atrocity.
“He asked me, ‘will you help me close [the Russian-Belarusian border]?’” Lukashenko said in remarks carried by the official Belta news agency. “He said, ‘I will. We’re doing everything’. That was the conversation.”
“That’s why they turned around and went toward the Ukrainian-Russian section of the border.”
What is even more funny is the notion that putin couldnt even close off his own boarder with Belarussia without Lukashenko's assistance
Why are you trying to avoid answering my question about the Swiss?
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You need not worry; he is a renowned fan of Apple and only uses a mac, so he should be quite safe.I hope he keeps away from Windows
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You need not worry; he is a renowned fan of Apple and only uses a mac, so he should be quite safe.
That’s a dig at the capital W that my phone put there (which I found interesting
) I suppose 
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