The war in Ukraine...

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
He’s like a stuck record amount of times he comes out with that say he’s bound to be right sooner or later
So you tell me how you see this ending, the West seems determined to keep arming & financing Ukraine & both sides in the war have lost far too much already for negotiations to have any chance of succeeding, Biden's mouth has disqualified America from trying to bring about any kind of a peaceful solution.
There will come a point where Russian losses will force them to go nuclear into Ukraine, this has now become pretty much inevitable.

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flinty123

Member
Mixed Farmer
In the 1930’s, Russia starved 6 million Ukrainians to death. Do you think that would be a satisfactory outcome now?
I suppose as long as you get cheap fuel 🤷‍♂️
Haha, how many did the French kill in Africa? What happened to Gadaffi and Libya for cheap fuel, which you use in your vehicles? Come off it, you can't give lectures to Brian whilst your country makes Putin look like a fairy.

Brian has a valid point, arming innocent Ukrainians and sending them to the front line via gunpoint is not going to win the war, it will simply decimate an entire generation of Ukrainians.

I am shocked at how many members are content with young Ukrainians being sent to their deaths daily!
 

Old apprentice

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Arable Farmer
Haha, how many did the French kill in Africa? What happened to Gadaffi and Libya for cheap fuel, which you use in your vehicles? Come off it, you can't give lectures to Brian whilst your country makes Putin look like a fairy.

Brian has a valid point, arming innocent Ukrainians and sending them to the front line via gunpoint is not going to win the war, it will simply decimate an entire generation of Ukrainians.

I am shocked at how many members are content with young Ukrainians being sent to their deaths daily!
What is the other option with Putin's murdering squids repeat history all over again and see thousands disappear never to be seen again.
 

flinty123

Member
Mixed Farmer
Your attitude to the people of Ukraine is disgusting to say the least.

My attitude towards the Ukrainians is compassion. Why should children lose their fathers, mothers their sons? When Trump has openly confirmed he will walk away from Ukraine. Why should more blood be lost and hurt caused, when we know that America has lost the appetite for the war.

Why aren't you honest, the only reason the war is still ongoing is because Biden would look weak and lose the next election, its nothing more then selfish gain.
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
I still see china having a hand in this somehow,they watch on and will pick on a carcass but which carcass?
China... I don't think China really has any friends globally, just convenient associates for whatever reason. It certainly has no love for Russia, and 'my enemy's enemy' only goes so far. Importantly, it can't survive without both Western trade and enormous imports, and China is on the brink of economic meltdown.

If push comes to shove, and the West makes it brutally clear that serious military help to Russia means serious sanctions against Chinese goods and preventing its imports, my guess is that China will choose Western trade and cheap / free Russian energy.

Trump will end it, everyone knows that America will walk away. Trump knows there's no profit to be made in Ukraine, Russia is simply too powerful
One could be forgiven for thinking you are getting the message to spread straight from the Kremlin.
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
My attitude towards the Ukrainians is compassion. Why should children lose their fathers, mothers their sons? When Trump has openly confirmed he will walk away from Ukraine. Why should more blood be lost and hurt caused, when we know that America has lost the appetite for the war.

Why aren't you honest, the only reason the war is still ongoing is because Biden would look weak and lose the next election, its nothing more then selfish gain.
You have told too many ,lies and played devil's advocate too much to be taken seriously in this matter. Your mock sincerity is utterly unconvincing.

Why are you not honest?
 

flinty123

Member
Mixed Farmer
China... I don't think China really has any friends globally, just convenient associates for whatever reason. It certainly has no love for Russia, and 'my enemy's enemy' only goes so far. Importantly, it can't survive without both Western trade and enormous imports, and China is on the brink of economic meltdown.

If push comes to shove, and the West makes it brutally clear that serious military help to Russia means serious sanctions against Chinese goods and preventing its imports, my guess is that China will choose Western trade and cheap / free Russian energy.


One could be forgiven for thinking you are getting the message to spread straight from the Kremlin.

One could be forgiven for thinking politicians should do their job and bring about a cease fire via peace talks,.in order to prevent further Ukrainian deaths.
 

Old apprentice

Member
Arable Farmer
My attitude towards the Ukrainians is compassion. Why should children lose their fathers, mothers their sons? When Trump has openly confirmed he will walk away from Ukraine. Why should more blood be lost and hurt caused, when we know that America has lost appetite for the war.
If the West and USA at the moment stumped up what they should things would be a lot better for ukraine. It is reported that some republicans have been reported to taking money from the aggressors it is reported the ex speaker in usa said so.
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
Your attitude to the people of Ukraine is disgusting to say the least.
You are wrong it is the attitude of Western governments & the US that's disgusting, they all know full well that the chances of defeating Russia completely & forcing them right out of Ukraine are slim to zero & yet they actively encourage Zelensky & his crowd to continue sacrificing Ukrainian lives simply because it suits their purpose to continue to weaken Russia, no one has any interest in bringing this to an end & eventually it will end badly for the people of Ukraine
 

flinty123

Member
Mixed Farmer
If the West and USA at the moment stumped up what they should things would be a lot better for ukraine. It is reported that some republicans have been reported to taking money from the aggressors it is reported the ex speaker in usa said so.

That is common knowledge every American politician loves election campaign sponsors.
 

Old apprentice

Member
Arable Farmer
You are wrong it is the attitude of Western governments & the US that's disgusting, they all know full well that the chances of defeating Russia completely & forcing them right out of Ukraine are slim to zero & yet they actively encourage Zelensky & his crowd to continue sacrificing Ukrainian lives simply because it suits their purpose to continue to weaken Russia, no one has any interest in bringing this to an end & eventually it will end badly for the people of Ukraine
We will put it like this if you talked like you do and we were at war you would be !picked up within 24 hours. You live in a free society you should be great full for the free rain of utter crap you put on about it.
 

flinty123

Member
Mixed Farmer
You have told too many ,lies and played devil's advocate too much to be taken seriously in this matter. Your mock sincerity is utterly unconvincing.

Why are you not honest?
Sincerity, It is not me who is supporting the daily death of young Ukrainians, it is you who is playing arm chair general.

Go on enlighten us what do you think will happen to conclude affairs? Will Mr Biden send in American troops?
 

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