£/per acre

[average farmer]

We often hear about how many hp per acre we should have but not very often about how many £ per acre we should have tied up up machinery. Without going too in depth I’m just wondering what kind of money people have tried up in machinery.
Here’s mine
2011 jd c670i £75k
2008 jd 7430 £29 k
2004 jd 6920s 20k
2004 jd 8320 40k
2003 jd 8520t 35 k
1985 jd 3140 6k
2004 cat 330b 12 k

We have a bit of hedge cutting done for us but nothing else.

No full time staff, just me and dad. Have a self employed driver drive the combine.

960 acres just wondering how it compares

 

[Flat 10]

So without going into detail on your values(some of which seem very low- can I buy 6920?) anyway approximately £200k on 1000 acre = £200 per acre. I would be on similar using your definition of machinery with an engine. This surprised me as I thought you looked over equipped but I must be equally!

 

[Drillman]

About £65k tied up in tractors 2x £25k and 1x£15k and a further £20k in a forklift on just over 200 acres corn 100 grass for beef cattle and some contract drilling, baling and wrapping.

If it were just my own the oldest £15k tractor wouldn’t be missed.

Contractor does combining and hedge cutting and another chap the mowing the rest is in house

 

[Tim G]

On what basis do you value your machinery?

 

[Brisel]

2018 NH CR9.90 combine £375k
2012 JD 6190R 60k
2008 JCB 531-70 £15k
£450k

What about 2 contract hire tractors plus a harvest hire machine?
2015 JD 8370R approx £100k
2017 JD 6215R approx £110k
Harvest hire circa £120k for 10 weeks/year or £7.5k

On 2800 acres that's £667.5k or £238/ac. Very low repair costs. Certainly lower than the OP. What is the point? 0.3 hp/ac ex combine.

 

[Spud]

6 tractors, 3 telehandlers and a combine here, on a sniff under 1000acres - nearly a third of the area/half the workload being spuds. One forklift is away 6 months of the year loading beet for the haulage side of the business.

About £300/acre, but remove the beet forklift and drop the tractors we could manage without if we didn't grow spuds and it's a different story.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

51p=1NZD = £40/acre
(based on insured / replacement value)

 

[Sharpy]

51p=1NZD = £40/acre
(based on insured / replacement value)

That's some value in that Nuffield!

 

[Kiwi Pete]

That's some value in that Nuffield!

And appreciating

 

[wellingtonfarmer]

We often hear about how many hp per acre we should have but not very often about how many £ per acre we should have tied up up machinery. Without going too in depth I’m just wondering what kind of money people have tried up in machinery.
Here’s mine
2011 jd c670i £75k
2008 jd 7430 £29 k
2004 jd 6920s 20k
2004 jd 8320 40k
2003 jd 8520t 35 k
1985 jd 3140 6k
2004 cat 330b 12 k

We have a bit of hedge cutting done for us but nothing else.

No full time staff, just me and dad. Have a self employed driver drive the combine.

960 acres just wondering how it compares

What’s the point in having 7 tractors and only 2 drivers?

 

[YELROM]

Straight on to the next one when one breaks down
Two drivers, the third man is continually fitting head gaskets

 

[Finn farmer]

200k€ of machinery on 200 hectares, so 1k€/hectare.

 

[Orionn4444]

200k€ of machinery on 200 hectares, so 1k€/hectare.

What are these 'hectares' and € you speak of, doesn't sound like Queens English at all

 

[Flat 10]

200k€ of machinery on 200 hectares, so 1k€/hectare.

More money in farming in Finland evidently...
There's also a chap posting on T@W from Czech Rep I think and they seem to have plenty of money for new gear too...

 

[SilliamWhale]

It a bit of a pointless comparison really.

All depends if the kit is bought and paid for vs hp, or the condition of it, buy a new machine one year and then you could jump up quite a lot per ha in year 1 and then it could drop down a bit as it depreciates.

I wouldn't read that much into £/ acre comparison.

 

[Brisel]

I agree. Total labour + machinery per acre is a more valid comparison. That will balance older kit with higher repairs, and low labour/high horsepower or vice versa. The top 25% of arable producers in AHDB's Farmbench actually have higher machinery depreciation than the rest, but lower total labour & machinery then the rest, coupled with a higher output and lower total fixed costs. A lower cost figure isn't always a good thing if unreliability or lack of capacity costs you output through lack of timeliness.

 

[Kevtherev]

Most farms are over powered

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I agree. Total labour + machinery per acre is a more valid comparison. That will balance older kit with higher repairs, and low labour/high horsepower or vice versa. The top 25% of arable producers in AHDB's Farmbench actually have higher machinery depreciation than the rest, but lower total labour & machinery then the rest, coupled with a higher output and lower total fixed costs. A lower cost figure isn't always a good thing if unreliability or lack of capacity costs you output through lack of timeliness.

Total engine hours per hectare is always interesting to compare as well, but then I excel at being a lazy sh!t

 

[fred.950]

2018 NH CR9.90 combine £375k
2012 JD 6190R 60k
2008 JCB 531-70 £15k
£450k

What about 2 contract hire tractors plus a harvest hire machine?
2015 JD 8370R approx £100k
2017 JD 6215R approx £110k
Harvest hire circa £120k for 10 weeks/year or £7.5k

On 2800 acres that's £667.5k or £238/ac. Very low repair costs. Certainly lower than the OP. What is the point? 0.3 hp/ac ex combine.

I think I could make your figures look very cheap in comparison
Oh well, it’s not my train set I just get to play with it

 

[Finn farmer]

More money in farming in Finland evidently...
There's also a chap posting on T@W from Czech Rep I think and they seem to have plenty of money for new gear too...

We've had to renew our machines, since most of it was from early/late 90's and some were very early 00's. Doubling the hectares is pretty costly.