10,000 hour plus tractors

[MF 168]

We had a 143 Scania had well over a 1 million miles on it when sold and it needed very light at all to keep it on the road every day ,we should never have sold it great truck

A friend of mine often goes on about one of those old Scania trucks he drove a couple of times and it had 1.2 million miles when sold. He frequently regrets not buying it at the time as it went for a song and was exported.

 

[MF 168]

Sorry but I agree with spud, that back and forward movement on the seives is brutal on them. Engines aren't the issue it's the metal fatigue.

Metal fatigue is a bit of an issue on higher houred combines I will admit but I've 2 approaching those hours and apart from a couple of superficial cracks in tinwork fatigue hasn't reared it's ugly head yet. Touch wood. I am a stickler for keeping bearings and bushings in first class order which I think helps. It's when things start knocking that they start breaking up. I know a NH here with over 9000 hours done and still going and a MF860 over in the States with over 11000 hours and it cut corn this year well last year now.

 

[Speedstar]

A friend of mine often goes on about one of those old Scania trucks he drove a couple of times and it had 1.2 million miles when sold. He frequently regrets not buying it at the time as it went for a song and was exported.

Ours went to a collector as it has a canopy over the cab and the cab was like new ,were as a lot had rust around the front windows

 

[Speedstar]

We have 2 MF 6480 one T2 the other T3 both with Perkins engines one over 10,000 hours the other just under both have been very little trouble

 

[Deere 6430]

John Deere 6410 now clocked 20,000 hrs mainly maintenance before problems, so rockshaft twice, brakes twice, engine had a overhaul, rocker gasket few weeps from gaskets etc, and a pto clutch, but that’s it

 

[MF 168]

Ours went to a collector as it has a canopy over the cab and the cab was like new ,were as a lot had rust around the front windows

I don't know what kind of order this one was in but it was in full time use right up to it's sale. My friend was driving a fairly new Scania (430hp I think) up to last year and said it was the worst pos ever. Constant issues with it. All electrical I think. He got a new DAF last year and thats worse he says. He's currently waiting on a new Iveco Stralis as he hears good things about them?. Time will tell I suppose.

 

[Hilly]

If you think new tractors don’t break take a tour of all main dealers workshops .

 

[daveydiesel1]

If you think new tractors don’t break take a tour of all main dealers workshops .

Agree was in kubota dealers today. He used to be case dealer until about 3 years ago and his workshop is full to brim with pumas and t7s with the backends totally in pieces, I says he's glad he doesn't sell them anymore apparently kubota m7s giving lot less trouble and he's takin out deals against cnh from old customers oh and btw wasnt 1 kubota in workshop and he has good few out ther

 

[Red Fred]

If you think new tractors don’t break take a tour of all main dealers workshops .

In the '90s, I used to work part time doing deliveries and that took me into various workshops. It was obvious that the "premium brand " tractors were actually no more or less reliable than my Stockman Special, (although they appeared to cost more in repairs. ) I concluded that the folks who bought the "Top brands" were enthusiasts and ignored the repairs as they were happy owning their quality brand, whereas we didn't know if Case were a part of MF or whatever and just had a cheapo tractor to do the feeding.
Thinking back to the days when I worked with Ford 7700s, etc, the same thing was true. The ones we used were all pretty poor in terms of engine replacements and other warranty claims, but everyone on the farm, including me, swore they were the best thing since sliced bread because they looked the part, being bigger and shinier than the neighbours'.
The same thing is true of any "guy stuff" or hobby equipment.

 

[vantage]

I don't know what kind of order this one was in but it was in full time use right up to it's sale. My friend was driving a fairly new Scania (430hp I think) up to last year and said it was the worst pos ever. Constant issues with it. All electrical I think. He got a new DAF last year and thats worse he says. He's currently waiting on a new Iveco Stralis as he hears good things about them?. Time will tell I suppose.

Working his way up to a Volvo!

 

[Hilly]

I don't know what kind of order this one was in but it was in full time use right up to it's sale. My friend was driving a fairly new Scania (430hp I think) up to last year and said it was the worst pos ever. Constant issues with it. All electrical I think. He got a new DAF last year and thats worse he says. He's currently waiting on a new Iveco Stralis as he hears good things about them?. Time will tell I suppose.

I think he’s heading in the wrong direction.

 

[kiwi pom]

I think he’s heading in the wrong direction.

Me too. Next stop Isuzu followed by Sinotruk?

 

[Flat 10]

Metal fatigue is a bit of an issue on higher houred combines I will admit but I've 2 approaching those hours and apart from a couple of superficial cracks in tinwork fatigue hasn't reared it's ugly head yet. Touch wood. I am a stickler for keeping bearings and bushings in first class order which I think helps. It's when things start knocking that they start breaking up. I know a NH here with over 9000 hours done and still going and a MF860 over in the States with over 11000 hours and it cut corn this year well last year now.

Really?! That’s 3000 more than I’ve ever heard of a combine doing and 5000 more than I’ve ever seen. What model and age?

 

[Hooby Farmer]

Agree was in kubota dealers today. He used to be case dealer until about 3 years ago and his workshop is full to brim with pumas and t7s with the backends totally in pieces, I says he's glad he doesn't sell them anymore apparently kubota m7s giving lot less trouble and he's takin out deals against cnh from old customers oh and btw wasnt 1 kubota in workshop and he has good few out ther

He's also only sold an extremely small percentage of big kubotas vs CNH machines so you would like to hope there would be very few of any in the workshop.

 

[daveydiesel1]

He's also only sold an extremely small percentage of big kubotas vs CNH machines so you would like to hope there would be very few of any in the workshop.

He never sold that many cases either compared to Cowan are sellin

 

[Bramble]

Really?! That’s 3000 more than I’ve ever heard of a combine doing and 5000 more than I’ve ever seen. What model and age?

Claas Dominator 118 here with 4800 hrs on it and still going strong on 300 acres. Servicing/repairs about £1000/year, meticulously maintained, everything works. Even fitted an old EZ steer motor to it last year to get some basic auto steering

 

[masseyfendt37]

John deere 7810 11.8khrs
6900 11.5k hrs
MF 6465 T3 10000hrs just recently

 

[Jz2017]

Fords 7840 on feeder stuck on 9267 hours for last 3 years, goes well. Worth almost same as we paid with loader on. Can still sit on a power Harrow for a day

 

[Dave6170]

I have a massey 6612 4 cyl with a loader, it’s 2014 with 11,700 hours had to do 2 hydraulic pumps on it but it’s high enough hours for a small tractor that age

Its been busy!

 

[aussie massey]

Standard Dexta here from my grandfathers time had over 9000 hours on the original clock that stopped working 30 years ago. Clutch and brake pedals are rounded off from wear as as the foot rests both sides. On it's 3rd engine.
MF168 in everyday use still with a suspected 16k hours done. Only got a set of rings and valve work in all that time.
Landini Blizzard rolled over 10k hours this Christmas. Engine never opened but the gearbox is another matter.
MF362 with a clocked 8500 hours but it does mostly high idling work so an hour doesn't clock up in an hour if that makes sense and I reckon it has about 11 or 12k actual hours done. Engine and gearbox never touched and that includes the hydraulics. By far the best tractor we ever had.
MF3690 with 8500 hours. Spent it's life on a plough. Still a front line machine though not ploughing anymore.
Ford 3600 with 11200 odd hours now. It went kaput before Christmas with 11160 hours on the original engine. Gave it a full rebuild and it's currently running a Keenan 80 diet feeder everyday to run it in.
Volvo L30 with 9500 hours. On it's 3rd engine but only because over the years the power demands have gone up.

Just out of curiosity has your 3690 been a good tractor, so guys like them some guys hate them. l have always liked the look of them .