10,000 hour plus tractors

[Enry]

Something worth remembering is the 40 series clock hours 20% faster that the fergys of the same era my old boss ran a 7840 and a Mf 6190 side by side and found the Mf clocked two hours less in the same ten hour day

As for high hours I’ve got a Mf 3630 on 10k plus and a matbro tr250 the 7480 is on 9200 so getting there

This is mad isn't it - like shoes sizes, an hour is an hour, either at rated speed or in real time. Maybe the MF was on rated speed and the NH on hour for hour?

 

[Dog Bowl]

Depends. Who's fixing them if they go wrong?
They could be fine and give no bother or in 12 months time they could both have needed engine or transmission work.
Pay someone that knows them inside out to check them both over for you before you buy.

Well we have a decent network of ex Deere mechanics about who we use on our existing tractors. Id probably get one of them to accompany me to view these tractors before buying.

Id look to use both tractors well into high hours, but bearing in mind that this would be 2 older tractors doing the work of one newer one. They may do 400 hrs a year each. Quite thought provoking...

 

[Sharny dubs]

Ive been looking at a 6130R that is 2 years old and advertised for mega wonga. I'm now thinking about going down the route of 2 classics, say 6430 and a 6930 deere, and get both for similar money to the 6130R. Both the 30 series ive seen are 6500hrs or thereabouts, both 12 plates so one of the last, but both very tidy. Am I seriously mad?!

Total gamble. They could be genuine tractors, could of been sold for a reason. At least with 2 if one breaks down you can keep going with the other. But remember they will break down. As they get on things will wear out and need changed. Also have you got access to a good mechanic not at the dealership? If you can use a white van man style mechanic it can save you thousands on repair Bills. I run stuff to higher hours now but I buy them as new as I can possibly afford so I know the history and know if its been a good on or not. Recently bought another tractor that is 4 years old 3000 hrs but still under warranty. That ment I could ask to look back the warranty records and see if it needed a lot done. Back to your jds. That's tractors that should easy do 15k hours I would think.
Edit my reply took to long. If u have a tame jd mechanic yer laughin

 

[Lowland1]

Ive been looking at a 6130R that is 2 years old and advertised for mega wonga. I'm now thinking about going down the route of 2 classics, say 6430 and a 6930 deere, and get both for similar money to the 6130R. Both the 30 series ive seen are 6500hrs or thereabouts, both 12 plates so one of the last, but both very tidy. Am I seriously mad?!

Surely it will depend on the hours you will put on per year 500 or less it should be second hand every time. When you start clocking up in excess of a 1000 then it would have to be new or low houred.

 

[Dog Bowl]

Surely it will depend on the hours you will put on per year 500 or less it should be second hand every time. When you start clocking up in excess of a 1000 then it would have to be new or low houred.

Yeh thats why if I bought new or 'young', that one tractor would do 800 hrs a year minimum. I'm saying id buy 2 older tractors, split those hours between them and enjoy the flexibility of having 2 tractors instead of the one.

 

[Ormond]

Fendt 311 1986 is on around 13000....engine runs like a Swiss watch

 

[Lowland1]

Yeh thats why if I bought new or 'young', that one tractor would do 800 hrs a year minimum. I'm saying id buy 2 older tractors, split those hours between them and enjoy the flexibility of having 2 tractors instead of the one.

I agree two tractors is better than one. If I buy a secondhand tractor it is either ex hire and under 600 hours or older and around 6000 hours. In my experience the mid houred tractors tend to cause more problems. We put 1500 to 2000 hours a year on our tractors and find them difficult to sell so just run them til they die. However older tractors do seem harder to kill.

 

[daveydiesel1]

I agree two tractors is better than one. If I buy a secondhand tractor it is either ex hire and under 600 hours or older and around 6000 hours. In my experience the mid houred tractors tend to cause more problems. We put 1500 to 2000 hours on our tractors and find them difficult to sell so just run them til they die. However older tractors do seem harder to kill.

But are older tractors betr? I remember as a kid my dad and other farmers regularly discussing that how these "then" new tractors would all be in a breakers yard when they are 10 years old cause of all the electronics. This was around the time when 40/ts series new hollands,3000/6100 masseys were new thers stil plenty of them in service today either here or exported so in 20 years time id say ther will stil be r series jd,77 series massey and t7 series nh workin away

 

[Cmoran]

Ive been looking at a 6130R that is 2 years old and advertised for mega wonga. I'm now thinking about going down the route of 2 classics, say 6430 and a 6930 deere, and get both for similar money to the 6130R. Both the 30 series ive seen are 6500hrs or thereabouts, both 12 plates so one of the last, but both very tidy. Am I seriously mad?!

I’d definitely go for the two older tractors. But around here it’s hard sell a 30 premium because some gave lots of trouble. My local garage regularly gives me 30 series premium tractors to try for few days after electrical trouble before going back to owner!!! I’m a big fan of the 30 standard which is speced good enough for our needs but I understand lots of farms need higher spec

 

[Lowland1]

But are older tractors betr? I remember as a kid my dad and other farmers regularly discussing that how these "then" new tractors would all be in a breakers yard when they are 10 years old cause of all the electronics. This was around the time when 40/ts series new hollands,3000/6100 masseys were new thers stil plenty of them in service today either here or exported so in 20 years time id say ther will stil be r series jd,77 series massey and t7 series nh workin away

To operate newer tractors win always.The issue with newer tractors is or will be the cost of repair. We have just rebuilt the engine of a 1965 MF 135 however whether we will be able to rebuild a New Holland CVT transmission in 55 years I don't know

 

[daveydiesel1]

To operate newer tractors win always.The issue with newer tractors is or will be the cost of repair. We have just rebuilt the engine of a 1965 MF 135 however whether we will be able to rebuild a New Holland CVT transmission in 55 years I don't know

Well the first problem in that scenario is the nh tractor ?

 

[Lowland1]

Well the first problem in that scenario is the nh tractor ?

Second is I am unlikely to be around in 2075 to do it.

 

[2wheels]

Second is I am unlikely to be around in 2075 to do it.

in that case it's not a worry.

 

[ARW]

We have 3 high houred tractors all break down in this last 2 weeks! I currently have 0 tractors running!

 

[Lowland1]

in that case it's not a worry.

It may be to a future grandchild if his father like my father decides to spend a lot of money doing up something that really should be cut up not done up.