100,000 pigs to be destroyed

[Suffolk Serf]

But if the pig price is catastrophic then surely the problem is too much breeding stock, not too little finishing space?

Lack of staff at the processors (we are told) has led to a backing up of pigs on finishing farms, hence more finishing accommodation required, adding to what was already a tight situation, compounded by most breeders simply getting better at their job and churning out more piglets.
The sow herd has been falling for a few months now and it will take a few more for the drop in numbers to feed through.
There will, for the forseeable future, be a strong demand for good quality finishing accommodation.

 

[bitwrx]

Surely the problem is just a general oversupply in the EU/UK?

Within that, there probably is a shortage of straw bedded finishing accommodation due to the increased proportion of pigs desired to be reared under such systems.

Confounding that is the issue that no bugger wants them, because they "can't find" the butchers.

It's a right bugger's muddle.

 

[Daniel]

Lack of staff at the processors (we are told) has led to a backing up of pigs on finishing farms, hence more finishing accommodation required, adding to what was already a tight situation, compounded by most breeders simply getting better at their job and churning out more piglets.
The sow herd has been falling for a few months now and it will take a few more for the drop in numbers to feed through.
There will, for the forseeable future, be a strong demand for good quality finishing accommodation.

But not the money from the retailers to build new finishing accommodation, and if you do keep finishers you can expect to roll them over and watch them go out of spec due to lack of butchering capacity?

Sounds a bit like the egg job, rocketing costs and retailers refusing to pay for any of them!

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Peter Crichton rang earlier just to say that he's just started to detect signs of the pig job turning, with many less pigs being "rolled". Coming from someone who has been sounding pessimistic for several months, that is quite something.
Yes, very similar to the egg job, but at least we are seeing a big decline in the sow herd happening now, throughout Europe, which will lead to a price "correction" eventually.

 

[Pan mixer]

Peter Crichton rang earlier just to say that he's just started to detect signs of the pig job turning, with many less pigs being "rolled". Coming from someone who has been sounding pessimistic for several months, that is quite something.
Yes, very similar to the egg job, but at least we are seeing a big decline in the sow herd happening now, throughout Europe, which will lead to a price "correction" eventually.

I do hope that Peter is correct, he has had his finger firmly on the pulse for years and he is not prone to false optimism.

One of my Essex mates had his last fats go very recently as far as I know, another had hoped that all his sows would be weaned and gone by end January.

That is about 700 sows less in my county.

My chap wanted to roll pigs this week though, surely it is barbeque weather now?

 

[spin cycle]

I do hope that Peter is correct, he has had his finger firmly on the pulse for years and he is not prone to false optimism.

ummm.....'what a difference a day makes' peter crichton in pig world 20/9/19

 

[JP1]

Just to remind folks this issue very much continues

There is a crisis meeting with the NPA and Minette Batters meeting Farm Minister Prentis tomorrow

The rollover backlog is still there

36,000 plus sows now left the sector

35-40,000 pigs euthanased on farm

There has been limited scheme slaughtering with prices of 50p / kg last Saturday

The uptake by processors of private storage has been awful partly because the meat has to be stored for a fixed time and has to be exported

 

[JP1]

Prentis to review Supply Chain Fairness in pig sector

Written by Michelle Martin from Agriland Minister of State at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) Victoria Prentis has today (Thursday, February 10) announced that a review of the Supply Chain Fairness in the pig sector will be launched. Taking to Twitter, Prentis...

thefarmingforum.co.uk

 

[Pan mixer]

Prentis to review Supply Chain Fairness in pig sector

Written by Michelle Martin from Agriland Minister of State at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) Victoria Prentis has today (Thursday, February 10) announced that a review of the Supply Chain Fairness in the pig sector will be launched. Taking to Twitter, Prentis...

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Let us hope that they look into it quickly and do something about it quick too. I am not holding my breath though.

 

[JP1]

Let us hope that they look into it quickly and do something about it quick too. I am not holding my breath though.

Me neither

I was on a Zoom meeting with Dr Zoe Davies yesterday; she looked shattered and I believe she's given her all at the NPA on behalf of all pig producers

 

[Pan mixer]

Me neither

I was on a Zoom meeting with Dr Zoe Davies yesterday; she looked shattered and I believe she's given her all at the NPA on behalf of all pig producers

You and I can remember the days before the NPA was created and the NFU did not much on pig farmers behalf at all.

Since we have had the NPA at least we make some headlines sometimes and it feels as though some hope is available.

Well done Zoe, I felt that she got cut off by the weather forecast on the Today programme this morning just as she was getting going.

 

[JP1]

You and I can remember the days before the NPA was created and the NFU did not much on pig farmers behalf at all.

Since we have had the NPA at least we make some headlines sometimes and it feels as though some hope is available.

Well done Zoe, I felt that she got cut off by the weather forecast on the Today programme this morning just as she was getting going.

We’re very lucky to have the NPA. Totally focussed and hard working small team and very effective

 

[ollie989898]

Well you've got Minette Batters on the case, it must be serious...

 

[Pan mixer]

Well you've got Minette Batters on the case, it must be serious...

I have a feeling that an enraged Zoe would be a tonic in the NFU lead position

 

[ollie989898]

I have a feeling that an enraged Zoe would be a tonic in the NFU lead position

I don't think the NFU is quite the vehicle that people imagine it to be. A new organisation is needed.

 

[Pan mixer]

I don't think the NFU is quite the vehicle that people imagine it to be. A new organisation is needed.

The pig farmers were tired of the inactivity of the NFU and formed a breakaway organisation with teeth, We protested at supermarkets, blockaded ports and kept a pig in Parliament square for months back in the day.

Sadly the few remaining independant pig farmers like me are either too old or too busy trying to make ends meet nowadays to do all that kind of stuff again but the NPA team do punch well above their weight.

I always had the feeling that the NFU weren't interested in any farms other than large ones where someone could have plenty of time to go to meetings and represent people just like themselves and especially interested in keeping the cost of cereals high which is exactly what pig farmers don't want.

 

[Full of bull(s)]

I don't think the NFU is quite the vehicle that people imagine it to be. A new organisation is needed.

I think it’s exactly the vehicle people imagine it to be and that’s why a new organisation is needed. A gravy train

 

[borderterribles]

The pig farmers were tired of the inactivity of the NFU and formed a breakaway organisation with teeth, We protested at supermarkets, blockaded ports and kept a pig in Parliament square for months back in the day.

Sadly the few remaining independant pig farmers like me are either too old or too busy trying to make ends meet nowadays to do all that kind of stuff again but the NPA team do punch well above their weight.

I always had the feeling that the NFU weren't interested in any farms other than large ones where someone could have plenty of time to go to meetings and represent people just like themselves and especially interested in keeping the cost of cereals high which is exactly what pig farmers don't want.

But they're the ones who pay the big subscriptions!

 

[Nukemall]

The pig farmers were tired of the inactivity of the NFU and formed a breakaway organisation with teeth, We protested at supermarkets, blockaded ports and kept a pig in Parliament square for months back in the day.

I had to drive that bloody Reliant Robin with trailer on the back from Wiltshire to parliament Square, and then bump it up the curb to get it in position.

 

[Nukemall]

Pig farmers to receive €20,000 under new scheme

Minister for Agriculture Charlie McConalogue has announced a €7m support scheme for pig farmers.

www.rte.ie