14 year old boy forced in hiding for scuffing a copy of the Koran after recieving death threats!

JCfarmer

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An autistic boy 14 year old bought a copy of that book as a forfeit for losing a video game. The book got dropped accidently and scuffed in school,not by the boy himself. He was suspended along with 3 other pupils and police began investigating a hate crime. A Labour councillor stoked tensions by falsely claiming on social media that the book was desecrated.
Now he and his family are in fear of their lives.
Makes my blood boil. :mad:
 
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Bald Rick

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An autistic boy 14 year old bought a copy of that book as a forfeit for losing a video game. The book got dropped accidently and scuffed in school,not by the boy himself. He was suspended along with 3 other pupils and police began investigating a hate crime. A Labour councillor stoked tensions by falsely claiming on social media that the book was desecrated.
Now he and his family are in fear of their lives.
Makes my blood boil. :mad:

Links are usually useful in matters such as these so peeps can make their own minds up.


The article also states that there is a video of the mothers statement in the mosque available via their Facebook page for anyone interested
 
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I can remember a similar reaction in my primary school when a boy falsely swore on the Bible that he didn't do something he did.

In some parts of the USA disrespecting the Stars and Stripes would generate a similar reaction.

Also remember the rednecks response to Richard Hammond's graffitied car on Top Gear?


Bigots/zealots/downright weirdo's are everywhere, not just in schools with a high proportion of Muslim students.
 

JCfarmer

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Links are usually useful in matters such as these so peeps can make their own minds up.


The article also states that there is a video of the mothers statement in the mosque available via their Facebook page for anyone interested
peeps? Is that left wing lovies that care to ignore this thread along with right wing lovies of course.
 

The Agrarian

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That's an extremely concerning article.

Lots of fear and coercion of the non-muslim people involved in the story, including the school, the police and the family of the boy. Instead of pandering to the Muslim congregation, it should have been made clear that any attempt to threaten would be met with swift arrest.

I do say that, placing myself in the story as if this had happened to a copy of the Bible etc. People of any religious or political persuasion, including the ones I identify with, must realise that toleration of diversity and dissent is a non-negotiable feature of pluralist UK.
 

Hindsight

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That's an extremely concerning article.

Lots of fear and coercion of the non-muslim people involved in the story, including the school, the police and the family of the boy. Instead of pandering to the Muslim congregation, it should have been made clear that any attempt to threaten would be met with swift arrest.

I do say that, placing myself in the story as if this had happened to a copy of the Bible etc. People of any religious or political persuasion, including the ones I identify with, must realise that toleration of diversity and dissent is a non-negotiable feature of pluralist UK.
Bible or Koran or Kama Sutra. A book is just that. They get scuffed, dropped torn etc,etc. sad when religious bigots can’t see beyond their noses. If that is what their God meant for them, then maybe aetheism isn’t such a bad concept.
 

The Agrarian

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There's no need to throw the baby out with the bath water. Just put fundamentalism (which in a country like the UK is a tiny minority anyway) in its place and let everyone else be. No one gets to threaten anyone else with violence.
 

Hindsight

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Mohamed was the most popular boys name for babies born last year, perhaps we should all be careful, I'm changing my name to Ali Bin Paddington to be on the safe side.
As I get to that time of life where mortality becomes reality I have begun to reflect on the hereafter. This has troubled me for some time. There seem several competing Gods out there. And a bit like finding Heinz Baked Beans are cheaper in Lidl when you just bought them in Sainsbury’s I am fearful of backing the wrong one. So am starting to attend all available options, so CofE, Catholic, Mosque, Hindu Temple etc, just so i know any key passwords and can mutter a bit of the jibber if i get to the pearly gates to find it ain’t CofE.
 

yoki

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As I get to that time of life where mortality becomes reality I have begun to reflect on the hereafter. This has troubled me for some time. There seem several competing Gods out there. And a bit like finding Heinz Baked Beans are cheaper in Lidl when you just bought them in Sainsbury’s I am fearful of backing the wrong one. So am starting to attend all available options, so CofE, Catholic, Mosque, Hindu Temple etc, just so i know any key passwords and can mutter a bit of the jibber if i get to the pearly gates to find it ain’t CofE.
To be briefly serious.

If you were genuinely seeking such a thing, you wouldn't find it in any man-made structure.

It comes from within and is already there, "seek and ye shall find" doesn't mean using google maps.
 

The Agrarian

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To be briefly serious.

If you were genuinely seeking such a thing, you wouldn't find it in any man-made structure.

It comes from within and is already there, "seek and ye shall find" doesn't mean using google maps.

Indeed. Matthew 7:7. Pearls of wisdom for the spiritual journey.

You could actually do worse than to at least visit all of the above religions. Not from the point of view of an afterlife password nonsense, but in how it might inform and enrich the journey.

PS He missed the Synagogue. And most importantly, the Quakers.
 
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Mohamed was the most popular boys name for babies born last year, perhaps we should all be careful, I'm changing my name to Ali Bin Paddington to be on the safe side.

You're no better than the Muslims who cross the channel in a small boat!

Just because you hitched a lift from darkest Peru in a cruise ship shouldn't have meant you could stay here

And never mind a few tomatoes, where's all the flipping marmalade gone ?
 

The Agrarian

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Just another load of righwing nutters wetting their pants in outrage at a none event. :(


Ok. I have a few issues arising from that video. First, the positives. The Imam talked the talk of peace, of rejection of any sort of violent reaction, of not being the driver of any investigation, and of not seeking to bring in blasphemy laws by the back door.

On the other side of the coin, however, the presenter said at the end that he expected the boy to be suspended for disrespecting the Qur'an, just as any other holy book. Strangely, he quoted others, but managed to somehow forget the Christian Bible. Anyhow. I'm not comfortable with that. Blatant disrespect in school grounds should certainly be the subject of efforts to educate the pupils on how respect for other races and faiths might be appropriately applied. But there is not a law against book burning, nor should there be.
 

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