16/32 v 20/40

[Maxxum-man]

Considering a new parlour at the minute, we are planning our system around 1 man and occasionally 1.5, currently have a 10/20 and can't imagine being able to handle a 20/40 during in winter with a proper pre wipe and post spray routine, most reps are recommending a 16/32.
Spec wise it would have metres acrs and feed to yield with auto ID, I am not keen on any adf system that I have seen so going to stick with post spraying.

Thoughts and opinions please

 

[Bipper]

How many cows and what yield?

Is it new site or in an existing shed

 

[Rossymons]

Stick the extra 4 units on at the start and have done with it.

 

[stablegirl]

We have a 18/36 similar spec to you are talking about.

To me its a one man parlour as it keeps one busy all the time, add a 2nd person and he is half utilized, ie under worked.

I dont understand why people think a parlour has to be flat out, my car will do 130mph that doesnt mean its how fast i go all the time.

Put in the 20/40, have one man in it normally but he will see a boost when there is a 2nd man in and if the occasion arises where you need to get done you can speed up.

 

[Will Blackburn]

Reps will recommend what you can afford/want because they are not going to lose a sale trying to persuade you a different configuration is better. Why do you think so many doubled up parlours are sold?

To be fair at least you appreciate the benefits of a swing over, so take that further and put a couple more units in that will only be vaguely superfluous for 1/3 of the year. You're better of with milking unit idle time rather than operator idle time.

Have you seen Airwash Plus automatic dipping and rinsing?

 

[Maxxum-man]

160, 8000 litres, summer grazing, currently do 65 an hour winter prep and 85 in summer

 

[Maxxum-man]

Reps will recommend what you can afford/want because they are not going to lose a sale trying to persuade you a different configuration is better. Why do you think so many doubled up parlours are sold?


To be fair at least you appreciate the benefits of a swing over, so take that further and put a couple more units in that will only be vaguely superfluous for 1/3 of the year. You're better of with milking unit idle time rather than operator idle time.

Have you seen Airwash Plus automatic dipping and rinsing?

Definetly wouldnt be doubling up a parlour!

The air wash plus system is the one where you have to cut your liners?

 

[awkward]

Adviser was recommending 2'2" rapid exit to me .but I didn't have space on my site .but milked in some. Disappointed now that I couldn't manage it.

 

[Moorlands]

Looking at putting 16/32 in here similar spec to your thinking got a couple of reps coming see what damage I'll be!

 

[Maxxum-man]

Looking at putting 16/32 in here similar spec to your thinking got a couple of reps coming see what damage I'll be!

We were pleasantly surprised!

 

[Moorlands]

We were pleasantly surprised!

Go on then what should I be expecting? What makes have you priced?

 

[organicguy]

Milking 200 through 18/36 auto id, cluster flush, meters 6000 l autumn block. 100 cows an hour, designed so herdsman is not waiting for units. It would be quicker if we had ADF or similar. Herdsman flat out but a second man takes half an hour off milking.

 

[early riser]

Some keen prices on parlours at the moment, it's all the building work round it/handling setup that eats money

 

[Maxxum-man]

Maybe 18/36 is the way to go.

 

[Milkcow365]

20/40 with adf and auto id and all the rest would be a good job for 1 man, im 25/50 but looking to go to 30/60 as two people may as well be kept going

 

[Milkcow365]

I'd say make it a 16/32 with stall work for 20/22
You can just add a couple of units a year as you can afford

 

[Rossymons]

Ours has the stallwork for 20.40 but only a 16/32. I'm looking at putting the extra units on now and I think it'll be quite eye watering compared to the relatively small amount it would have cost 15 years ago

 

[Will Blackburn]

Definetly wouldnt be doubling up a parlour!

The air wash plus system is the one where you have to cut your liners?

That's the one, I feel it puts it exactly where it needs to be.

 

[Maxxum-man]

Ours has the stallwork for 20.40 but only a 16/32. I'm looking at putting the extra units on now and I think it'll be quite eye watering compared to the relatively small amount it would have cost 15 years ago

How many is that milking?

 

[Rossymons]

Anywhere between 100 and 240 depending on season. Get the extra 4 units in at the start. I'm yet to hear anyone say "damn, this parlour is just too big".

Classic dairy farmer habit is to get milking in a new parlour, under 90mins each end of the day...then have another 50 cows and its up to over 2 hours again