2 row cubicle shed length

[Tarw Coch]

The Dutch have already developed (and are using) a type of mat which allows the urine through and keeps the muck on top. They have buildings with no cubicles at all just loose housed on the "high welfare" floor and a robot scraper which continuously picks up the solid muck. No bedding at all just the filter mattress!

At what cost?

I would think that would mean a different form of slurry storage too, the semi solid muck would surely be too thick for any conventional form of slurry storage yet too sloppy to stack.

As for no bedding, how do they manage for cleanliness, whilst my cow mattresses may be fine from a comfort perspective cows will go dirty without fresh bedding.

 

[PREES]

s for no bedding, how do they manage for cleanliness, whilst my cow mattresses may be fine from a comfort perspective cows will go dirty without fresh bedding.

From the pics I have seen that might be the biggest problem!
The robot scraper helps but maybe they have not got it entirely correct yet, a routine dusting of shavings maybe?

 

[Grassman247]

From the pics I have seen that might be the biggest problem!
The robot scraper helps but maybe they have not got it entirely correct yet, a routine dusting of shavings maybe?

No sane farmer will put in tech that isn’t well proven and long lasting. Far too much time is spent fixing things these days instead of farming. If we are too survive these up and down milk prices these gimmicks and new ideas can be tried out by the institutions. Only when there well proven will profitable farmers buy them.

 

[frederick]

No sane farmer will put in tech that isn’t well proven and long lasting. Far too much time is spent fixing things these days instead of farming. If we are too survive these up and down milk prices these gimmicks and new ideas can be tried out by the institutions. Only when there well proven will profitable farmers buy them.

From 2025 maybe 2027 there will be a design standard for new builds.

 

[Tarw Coch]

From 2025 maybe 2027 there will be a design standard for new builds.

There’s certainly talk of various environmental legislation coming in the next few years for livestock farmers, it will all add cost which can’t be recovered and do little if anything to add to profitability.
I expect many with a positive bank balance to get out leaving those on the hamster wheel to run faster with increased borrowing.

 

[TheRanger]

Totally irrelevant but I wouldn’t want whoever designed and built that shed working for me, the door is out of line with the passage.

Plus a very narrow passage for a new build

 

[Serup]

Plus a very narrow passage for a new build

How wide do you want it? Mine is 2,7 meters and i have about 8,8 m^2 per cow total.

 

[TheRanger]

How wide do you want it? Mine is 2,7 meters and i have about 8,8 m^2 per cow total.

The passage in the photo looks like around 6' or 7'. In a new build, I'd be wanting a minimum of 9' between cubicles, preferably more.

 

[Tarw Coch]

The passage in the photo looks like around 6' or 7'. In a new build, I'd be wanting a minimum of 9' between cubicles, preferably more.

I think it’s wider than that, I’m no expert on concrete slats but I thought they were about 3foot wide and as the concrete either side looks slightly wider my guess is that’s a 10 foot passage

 

[PREES]

@Serup - did you get a chance to video your scraper system? Or perhaps alternatively who are the manufacturers as they might have something on their website? Thanks!

 

[Grassman247]

Plus a very narrow passage for a new build

Totally agree my scraper passages will be 14ft, means the level of slurry between scraping remains lower on the foot

 

[Serup]

@Serup - did you get a chance to video your scraper system? Or perhaps alternatively who are the manufacturers as they might have something on their website? Thanks!

I will make a video tomorrow. It is only scraping once every few hours, so i have to be there at the right time.

My system is custom made, so you can’t find it on any webside. They didn’t believe in the system when they made it, as most just use a small loader to scrape at milking times, so not a big market. That’s illegal, as we have to scrape more often than that, but many do anyway.

 

[Bullet9]

Totally agree my scraper passages will be 14ft, means the level of slurry between scraping remains lower on the foot

Mines are similar mines ar every two ours wave minimum with Pollock Rope Scrapers best designed out there. Concrete grids in middle next farm across has them. Great for water expensive job tho. No much gain in my opinion still left more solids on bottom grid