3g outage

[del_boy]

Has anyone yet seen there 3g rtk signal dissappear yet?
Had an email from Chandler's warning us about the 3g signal going and advising we upgrade the 3g modem to a 4g one to save any potential problems when the switch over comes.
From reading the email alot of earlier tractors in in 2013 to 2018 we fitted with 3g modems and will require to upgrade to the newer 4g modems for continued accuracy as 3g will default to 2g.
Must be alot of older gps kits out there running on 3g modems still, seems its going to effect all brands if gps systems that use modems. The email states that there will be no warning when the switch off might happen and advising to get ahead of the game and update now.

 

[andyinv]

Aye, off up here too. A friend was concerned his model would stop working but 2G is still on the go and it's working that way. Might be an option before expensive upgrades

Accuracy has nothing to do with 2g/3g etc, NTRIP is a very low bandwidth application so if you can still load a webpage over 2g, you'll be fine for rtk

 

[del_boy]

Aye, off up here too. A friend was concerned his model would stop working but 2G is still on the go and it's working that way. Might be an option before expensive upgrades

Accuracy has nothing to do with 2g/3g etc, NTRIP is a very low bandwidth application so if you can still load a webpage over 2g, you'll be fine for rtk

So if it reverts to 2g with no accuracy loss is there any benefit to upgrading?

 

[Northern farmer]

So if it reverts to 2g with no accuracy loss is there any benefit to upgrading?

As above, no effect on accuracy as long as the NTRIP data stream gets through with acceptable latency. It does unless the 2G cells are overloaded with data users.

At least at my place the cellular operators have directed our NTRIP data to 2G cells even when 3G was available.

 

[BrianV]

Thought there was some talk of 3G being turned off permanently as 4G was the future, as if , makes you want to cry when for years 5G has been available everywhere in Switzerland for years, how is it we are so crap in the UK with this & the mobile phone signal, government leaving it all to private companies with no conditions of service I would guess.

 

[Northern farmer]

Thought there was some talk of 3G being turned off permanently as 4G was the future, as if , makes you want to cry when for years 5G has been available everywhere in Switzerland for years, how is it we are so crap in the UK with this & the mobile phone signal, government leaving it all to private companies with no conditions of service I would guess.

5G has been available in the UK too for a long time. The point here is that old equipment do not support 4G or 5G, not all even 3G. A lot of home security systems, remote surveillance and remote control devices only support 2G. These devices usually do not produce a lot of traffic, at least you would hope not many alarms from home. The cost of updating all these old devices to 4G or 5G would cost almost as much as building 5G support. This is why regulators in some countries force cellular operators to run 2G quite some time.

I did not check 5G coverage in Switzerland, are extreme rural and mountainous areas covered with 5 G (and why, what do you really gain there over 4G)?

 

[BrianV]

5G has been available in the UK too for a long time. The point here is that old equipment do not support 4G or 5G, not all even 3G. A lot of home security systems, remote surveillance and remote control devices only support 2G. These devices usually do not produce a lot of traffic, at least you would hope not many alarms from home. The cost of updating all these old devices to 4G or 5G would cost almost as much as building 5G support. This is why regulators in some countries force cellular operators to run 2G quite some time.

I did not check 5G coverage in Switzerland, are extreme rural and mountainous areas covered with 5 G (and why, what do you really gain there over 4G)?

5G like mobile phone coverage is pathetic in the UK, get on a train out of Paddington towards the West Country & within 5 minutes you lose both signals & it is constantly intermittent all the way home, in this day & age it's pathetic!

 

[andyinv]

So if it reverts to 2g with no accuracy loss is there any benefit to upgrading?

So if it reverts to 2g with no accuracy loss is there any benefit to upgrading?

None, as long as the data gets through