50KW produces £15K instead of £29k yearly

[Spuddler]

No complaints doing it this way

 

[NANOTREAT.co.uk]

=== OFFER OF £5 PER 250 WATT FOR 1 CUSTOMER ONLY AS CASE STUDY =====

Criteria :

(1) 50 KW.
(2) Preferably easy to access.
(3) Total charge of ( 200 x 5 ) = £1000 plus VAT.

This is to be a case study for the forum and other members of the public. Theory is always different from practical. When you see the shine and performance of a coated panel, you will see the point we are trying to make.

If view of this, for the selected project, a lux meter will be used to check the amount of sunlight, and meter readings will be taken before and after the treatment is done, and the difference in production before and after treatment will be published on the forum.

Furthermore, the selected customer would be very helpful by updating the forum on the weekly output and the performance of the coated panels for the next 6 months to 1 year or more. Increase in FIT compared to previous quarters would be good information to publish as well.

**** One benefit of our coating that we dont talk much about is that, our coating increases the absorption of UV light by up to 6% - thereby, increasing the panel efficiency. If other words, if 2 panels are 100% clean, and panel A is coated and panel B, is not coated, panel A will produce up to 6% more electricity. This ability of titanium to greatly absorb UV light is the reason why it is used as an ingredient in sunscreens. Also, it is a fact that cool panels produce more than hot panels. Coating reduces the panel surface temperature by around 6 degrees. The Coating will last for at least 10 years on the panel surface *******


As we are expecting some contracts to come through from other channels, if a major contract comes through earlier than expected, we might have to cancel the offers that are presently available on this forum.

Up till now, no one in the UK guarantees their solar panel coating for 6 months. We guarantee ours for 10 years. Our service is World Class, and we understand that not everyone will be able to afford it. However, we will do our best to make it as affordable as possible.

Thank you for your time and understanding.

 

[NANOTREAT.co.uk]

SOME DONE -SOME YET TO BE DONE. I am sure, you can tell which one is which.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Give it a break mate, you had a go, no one is interested

 

[Highland Mule]

Give it a break mate, you had a go, no one is interested

Unfair - the Nanotreat website has a Mr John Doe as a satisfied customer, albeit with a fake photograph.

Worth noting for any potential customers that the company is very young with no significant assets according to Companies' House. I'm not sure I would trust the company to underwrite the 10 year warranty and would be looking for some other form of guarantee, if that was important to you.

 

[akaPABLO01]

Unfair - the Nanotreat website has a Mr John Doe as a satisfied customer, albeit with a fake photograph.

Worth noting for any potential customers that the company is very young with no significant assets according to Companies' House. I'm not sure I would trust the company to underwrite the 10 year warranty and would be looking for some other form of guarantee, if that was important to you.

It was interesting to notice them using 800 solar hours in their new calculations rather then the 1000+ hours as first estimated. Looking a tad more legitimate.

You’re welcome @NANOTREAT.co.uk

 

[Doing it for the kids]

A* for effort though!

 

[NANOTREAT.co.uk]

We wish to separate the wheat from the chaff.

There are companies out there that claim they do SOLAR COATING. But all they do is, clean your panels and splash it with a solution that will last for 2 to 6 months. They are cheaper but guess what ? After 6 months or so, you are back to square one. No other company in the UK guarantees their coating on your panels for 10 years.

Which is better, pay £100 every year for cleaning your panels and produce more for 3 months and produce less for the next 9 months before the next clean, which will cost you in total £1,000 in 10 years. Or pay £1000 one-off, that will last for at least 10 years, and produce more, year in year out.

The answer to the question is, some will choose to pay £100 every year and we wish them well. Others will choose to pay £1,000 one-off for 10 years, and we welcome them on board. There is no cause for dispute.

We guarantee the treatment for 10 years when we apply the coating after the panels have been installed on your site. If we treat the panels before the panels are installed on the site, we can guarantee it for 15 years. The reason why we can guarantee our job for so long is because, someone already did the same treatment that we do, for the past 15 years with no complaints whatsoever.


Kindly allow us to re-emphasize the benefits of our coating to you :

(1) Panels are Cleaned, polished and coated.
(2) Panels surface will attract less dust.
(3) Panel surface will break-down oil pollutants e.g. bird droppings, vehicle emissions etc - no other company in the UK claims this.
(4) Panel surface will allow snow to slide off more quickly.
(5) Panel surface will inhibit the growth of organic pollutants e.g. green algae. To be frank, our coating will completely eradicate it, but we simply say, it will inhibit the growth.
(6) Panel surface will absorb more sunlight due to the high absorption capacity of titanium. Reason why titanium is use as an ingredient in sunscreens.
(7) Panel surface will allow the rain to effectively clean the panel surface.
(8) Coating will reduce the panel surface temperature by around 6 degrees - causing panels to produce more. It is a fact that, hot panels produce less than cool panels.

The benefits are too many to mention.

The conclusion is this :

WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY. DO YOU WANT IT ?

If yes, contact us. If no, thank you for your time.

 

[A1an]

Have you been in sales long?

 

[Solarfarmer]

Slightly off topic, but i think the financial benefits of cleaning panels are being overstated....

I did a basic cleaning experiment last summer when we were debating paying for our 650kw ground mounted array to be cleaned.

Basically we had two 27.6KW inverters wired up to the same number of identical panels. The performance of the 2 invertres was virtually identical before cleaning.

We then thoroughly cleaned all the panels which corresponded to 1 of the inverters and then monitored the performance for a week.

The cleaning got us just under 2% more generation vs uncleaned. The panels were 2 years old at that point and had never been cleaned.

It would not have been cost effective to clean the panels. Not by a long way!

With ground mounted panels I really don' think you need to clean them unless your in an unusually dusty location.

Ours get slightly dirty each summer then when the snow falls on them and slides off it takes the dirt off with it.

 

[NANOTREAT.co.uk]

Slightly off topic, but i think the financial benefits of cleaning panels are being overstated....

I did a basic cleaning experiment last summer when we were debating paying for our 650kw ground mounted array to be cleaned.

Basically we had two 27.6KW inverters wired up to the same number of identical panels. The performance of the 2 invertres was virtually identical before cleaning.

We then thoroughly cleaned all the panels which corresponded to 1 of the inverters and then monitored the performance for a week.

The cleaning got us just under 2% more generation vs uncleaned. The panels were 2 years old at that point and had never been cleaned.

It would not have been cost effective to clean the panels. Not by a long way!

With ground mounted panels I really don' think you need to clean them unless your in an unusually dusty location.

Ours get slightly dirty each summer then when the snow falls on them and slides off it takes the dirt off with it.

Thanks for your productive input of which we consider worth-while to respond to.

We believe and also agree with you that, sometimes, due to one reason or the other, some panel installations might not get dirty that much to justify the financial benefit of cleaning them. But not all. We believe this is the reason why, there are conflicting results online about the benefits of cleaning panels.

People have cleaned their panels before and have noticed 40% increase. Others like yourself, have cleaned theirs and have noticed just under 2%. We also believe that the result that you will get depends on how long the panels have been left un-cleaned. We also think that a crucial point is being forgotten. Your panels might produce 2% less, but the rate of degradation of the panels will be faster, by virtue of not cleaning them. Some might argue that we are wrong by making such statement, but we doubt if we are wrong.


One way to know if you are losing a lot of efficiency is, if you notice a massive increase in the output after it rains on your panels. Another way is to get someone to assess the efficiency of the system for you. Another way is to compare the output for year 1 to the later years.

At this point, we have to say that, If you are losing from 15% output upwards, please do not delay to contact us.

Back to the discussion, there are other factors that contribute to dirty panels apart from dust e.g. oil pollutants in the air, organic pollutants like green algae, tree sap etc

Panels close to the airport will have more oil pollutants sticking on them, irregardless of whether they are ground-mounted or not, because the pollutant is in the air.

Again, individual site circumstances vary. We as a company has been contacted by a firm to give a quote for treating 6,500 ground mounted solar panels, because they observed that the output had dropped considerably over time and the panels were looking very dirty and they had never been cleaned before.

Need we say more ?

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Brace yourself for a detailed counter argument

 

[Solarfarmer]

Brace yourself for a detailed counter argument

Haha
I’ll get the popcorn ready

I should point out my argument doesn’t apply to roofmount. They seem to get filthy, the shallower angles allow much more detritus to settle on them.